Re: ideal.dll

2012-06-22 Thread brian m. carlson
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 02:18:13PM -0400, Robert J. Hansen wrote: > On 6/22/2012 1:44 PM, ved...@nym.hush.com wrote: > > As you mentioned earlier, the v3 people have an entrenched user- > > base, and are hardly novices, and 'for them', listing the keysize > > with the fingerprint, really is trivia

GPA and hkps

2012-06-22 Thread John
Hello. In this instance I am running 64-bit Win7, and I have GPA installed with Gpg 2.0.17, which came from here: http://www.gpg4win.org/. In my configuration file are these two lines: keyserver hkps://zimmermann.mayfirst.org keyserver-options verbose ca-cert-file=%appdata%\gnupg\mfpl.crt An

Re: ideal.dll

2012-06-22 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On 06/22/2012 02:52 PM, ved...@nym.hush.com wrote: > Am somewhat surprised by the unprovoked V3 rants, when I asked for > nothing from anyone, and only thanked WK for allowing it to happen. Your characterization of "adding the key length is a trivial [something]" is what irritated me. As I menti

Re: ideal.dll

2012-06-22 Thread vedaal
On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 14:18:25 -0400 Robert J. Hansen wrote: >If people want to keep using PGP 2.6, let them, but I'm not going >to >help them do it. >Were it up to me, PGP 2.6 support in GnuPG would be reduced to >read-only. So be thankful Werner isn't paying attention to my >preferences. :

Visible Password

2012-06-22 Thread David Chadwick
Hi All I was demonstrating GPA for the first time to a class of students yesterday and a very strange thing happened. (Note that I am new to GPA, having used OpenPGP for the last 10 years, so I am not familiar with its "normal" behaviour). When I signed a message in the clipboard and was aske

Re: ideal.dll

2012-06-22 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On 6/22/2012 1:44 PM, ved...@nym.hush.com wrote: > As you mentioned earlier, the v3 people have an entrenched user- > base, and are hardly novices, and 'for them', listing the keysize > with the fingerprint, really is trivial. If people want to keep using PGP 2.6, let them, but I'm not going to h

Re: Visible Password

2012-06-22 Thread David Chadwick
Hi Robert yes you are right. It does indeed reveal your passphrase. I also tried to repeat my problem again with GPA, and this time most of my passphrase appeared in a thunderbird window that had not popped up when I started to use GPA after immediately reading your email. Something (I did?)

Re: ideal.dll

2012-06-22 Thread vedaal
On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 12:56:46 -0400 Robert J. Hansen wrote: >On 6/22/2012 12:39 PM, ved...@nym.hush.com wrote: >> " trivially countered by >> simply listing the keysize together with the fingerprint." > >This is, unfortunately, not a trivial fix. > >Already people don't pay attention to proper v

Re: Visible Password

2012-06-22 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On 6/22/2012 11:54 AM, David Chadwick wrote: > I was demonstrating GPA for the first time to a class of students > yesterday and a very strange thing happened. I was able to recreate this on GPG4WIN Win7/64, incidentally. The problem does not appear to be in GPA, but in pinentry. It can be recre

Re: ideal.dll

2012-06-22 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On 6/22/2012 12:39 PM, ved...@nym.hush.com wrote: > " trivially countered by > simply listing the keysize together with the fingerprint." This is, unfortunately, not a trivial fix. Already people don't pay attention to proper validation because the idea of checking the fingerprint is alien to the

Re: ideal.dll

2012-06-22 Thread vedaal
On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 11:23:27 -0400 David Shaw wrote: >There is more than one attack against V3. There is the "bit >sliding" attack, where you can forge the whole fingerprint, but as >a side effect it changes the keysize, and there is the DEADBEEF >attack where you can forge the key ID, but

Re: Visible Password

2012-06-22 Thread da...@gbenet.com
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 22/06/12 16:54, David Chadwick wrote: > Hi All > > I was demonstrating GPA for the first time to a class of students yesterday > and a very > strange thing happened. (Note that I am new to GPA, having used OpenPGP for > the last > 10 years, so I

Visible Password

2012-06-22 Thread David Chadwick
Hi All I was demonstrating GPA for the first time to a class of students yesterday and a very strange thing happened. (Note that I am new to GPA, having used OpenPGP for the last 10 years, so I am not familiar with its "normal" behaviour). When I signed a message in the clipboard and was aske

Re: ideal.dll

2012-06-22 Thread Aaron Toponce
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 10:21:35AM -0400, ved...@nym.hush.com wrote: > vulnerability in that their fingerprint mechanism is trivially > gamable, > so long keyid collisions are easy. [snip] Please fix your mail client. It is breaking threads. Thanks, -- . o . o . o . . o o . . . o . .

Re: ideal.dll

2012-06-22 Thread David Shaw
On Jun 22, 2012, at 10:21 AM, ved...@nym.hush.com wrote: > Daniel Kahn Gillmor dkg at fifthhorseman.net wrote on > Thu Jun 21 22:38:31 CEST 2012 : > >> v3 keys have a serious > vulnerability in that their fingerprint mechanism is trivially > gamable, > so long keyid collisions are easy. > > The

ideal.dll

2012-06-22 Thread vedaal
Daniel Kahn Gillmor dkg at fifthhorseman.net wrote on Thu Jun 21 22:38:31 CEST 2012 : >v3 keys have a serious vulnerability in that their fingerprint mechanism is trivially gamable, so long keyid collisions are easy. The 'serious vulnerability' you refer to, is trivially countered by simply lis