Re: Top-posting

2016-04-28 Thread Viktor Dick
On 2016-04-29 06:54, Paul R. Ramer wrote: > Personally, I would rather not have to hit the "Page Down" button > *every* time I wrote an email (provided I have full-size keyboard). If > you are always varying from the defaults in a consistent way, then the > defaults need to be different. Besides,

Re: Top-posting

2016-04-28 Thread Ben McGinnes
On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 11:26:52AM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Thursday, April 28, 2016 a las 11:02:30AM +0200, Paolo Bolzoni > escribió: > >> When you follow an email thread you do not read everything, you >> just read the new email and it makes little difference if it is in >> the top

Re: Website usability issue

2016-04-28 Thread Werner Koch
On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 20:58, tehpeh-gn...@tty1.net said: > ul.sub-menu" selector in your CSS file from 39px to 37px, then the > problem disappears for me. I'm not a web designer, so I'm not sure I did that now. Actually we fixed that more than year ago to close the gap by s/41px/39px/. With the 3

Re: Top-posting

2016-04-28 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Friday, April 29, 2016 a las 03:25:10PM +1000, Ben McGinnes escribió: > I don't have an answer for all smartphone and tablet users (other than > the sensible ones who will SSH from their phone into another system > and use Mutt or some other CLI MUA), but for the iPhone and iPad users > I d

Re: making a Debian Live CD for managing GnuPG master key and smartcards

2016-04-28 Thread Paul R. Ramer
On 04/26/2016 05:24 AM, Dashamir Hoxha wrote: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> You can use the wiki to link to the Github tasks that are relevant to >> using epgp in the Live CD, you don't have to copy the details of each >> task, just link to them >> > > It doesn't seem

Re: Top-posting

2016-04-28 Thread Paul R. Ramer
On 04/28/2016 02:49 AM, Paolo Bolzoni wrote: > However, you can move around with keyboard even in "modern" mua. When > using normal keyboards I think you are exagerating a bit. The problem > is indeed annoying with limited keyboards, though. Personally, I would rather not have to hit the "Page Dow

Re: Top-posting

2016-04-28 Thread Michael A. Yetto
On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 11:02:30 +0200 Paolo Bolzoni wrote: >I think this text (or variants) are old as email itself and >actually, while funny, makes little sense. > It makes quite a bit of sense when you are dragged into a thread that has gone on for a while. >When you follow an email thread you

Re: Top-posting

2016-04-28 Thread James Moe
On 04/28/2016 02:02 AM, Paolo Bolzoni wrote: > I agree that > is much better (A) to trim and answers to single points or (B) simply > make a clean email. > In that spirit I offer this rant: Trim your posts! There is no need for a complete history of every bit of text in 14 previous posts includ

Re: Top-posting

2016-04-28 Thread Daniel Villarreal
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 > El día Thursday, April 28, 2016 a las 02:28:56PM +0200, Guan Xin escribi ó: >> Your feeling is basically wrong. >> > Here comes the proofing example you asked for: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg20309.html Someone put on top of

Re: Website typo fixes

2016-04-28 Thread Werner Koch
On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 21:10, pe...@digitalbrains.com said: > I saw some typo's in libraries.org on the website. Seizing the occasion, I'm > also resending an older typo fix that either fell through the cracks or was > silently rejected. Thanks. Both applied to the repo. Salam-Shalom, Werner

Re: Website usability issue

2016-04-28 Thread Thomas Pircher
On 2016-04-28 19:36, Werner Koch wrote: Neither me, thus it is not easy to debug. However, I noticed it some time ago at someone else browser. I can see this too (FF 45.0.2 on Debian testing). But if you change the top: value in for the "nav ul li:hover ul.sub-menu" selector in your CSS file

[PATCH] Fix typo's in whats-new-in-2.1.org

2016-04-28 Thread Peter Lebbing
--- web/faq/whats-new-in-2.1.org | 14 +++--- 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-) diff --git a/web/faq/whats-new-in-2.1.org b/web/faq/whats-new-in-2.1.org index 179b075..c1e6d09 100644 --- a/web/faq/whats-new-in-2.1.org +++ b/web/faq/whats-new-in-2.1.org @@ -376,7 +376,7 @@ pu

[PATCH] Fix typo's in libraries.org

2016-04-28 Thread Peter Lebbing
--- web/related_software/libraries.org | 6 +++--- 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) diff --git a/web/related_software/libraries.org b/web/related_software/libraries.org index 2a5cc8d..6c963d0 100644 --- a/web/related_software/libraries.org +++ b/web/related_software/libraries.org

Website typo fixes

2016-04-28 Thread Peter Lebbing
I saw some typo's in libraries.org on the website. Seizing the occasion, I'm also resending an older typo fix that either fell through the cracks or was silently rejected. I hope I'm using git-send-email right... I hardly ever use it. ___ Gnupg-users ma

Re: Website usability issue

2016-04-28 Thread Werner Koch
On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 22:48, philip.jack...@nordnet.fr said: > Iceweasel 38.7.1esr-1-deb8u1) with touchpad. But I don't see the > problem you outline with the dropdown menus on gnupg.org (at least I > presume you are writing about gnupg.org ?). Neither me, thus it is not easy to debug. However, I

Re: Evangelzation discussion

2016-04-28 Thread Werner Koch
On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 11:31, pe...@digitalbrains.com said: > Yes, I think it would be better if stuff like GPGME, libassuan, > libgcrypt, libgpg-error, libksba and pinentry got their own category on > the website rather than being a peer to the other stuff in related > software... I changed this li

Re: Top-posting

2016-04-28 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Thursday, April 28, 2016 a las 02:28:56PM +0200, Guan Xin escribió: > Your feeling is basically wrong. Here comes the proofing example you asked for: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg20309.html Someone put on top of some mails a question which has nothing todo with the problem

Re: Top-posting

2016-04-28 Thread Guan Xin
This post is an example to prove that your feeling is wrong. Show your examples now. On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Thursday, April 28, 2016 a las 11:02:30AM +0200, Paolo Bolzoni > escribió: > > I have the feeling (and even could proof this with examples) that

Re: Top-posting

2016-04-28 Thread Guan Xin
Your feeling is basically wrong. On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Thursday, April 28, 2016 a las 11:02:30AM +0200, Paolo Bolzoni > escribió: > > I have the feeling (and even could proof this with examples) that top > posters do not even read about what they are po

Re: gpg and smartcard on ubuntu 16.04

2016-04-28 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 28/04/16 12:45, Peter Lebbing wrote: > Perhaps you could just add the gpg-connect-agent call to the > if-ssh-support conditional, and it would be purrfect. I will try that > now and see if everything stays peachy. At a first glance, it seems to work with the attached version. On a cold boot, th

Re: Top-posting

2016-04-28 Thread Andrew Gallagher
On 28/04/16 10:26, Matthias Apitz wrote: > Speaking more technically, the problem is that 'modern' MUA, like > OutLook crap, thunderbird or other browser-like MUA do not invite to > post and quote correctly. They put the cursor above the first line > (sometimes you can not even configure this, and

Re: gpg and smartcard on ubuntu 16.04

2016-04-28 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 28/04/16 02:23, NIIBE Yutaka wrote: > In my environment of Debian, those variables are set by: > /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90gpg-agent After I installed GnuPG 2.1 on my Debian Jessie (which doesn't have 2.1 itself), I encountered annoying issues. I also use smartcards, for SSH auth as well. I got it

Re: Top-posting

2016-04-28 Thread Andrew Gallagher
On 28/04/16 11:07, Jerry wrote: > > I use "claws-mail" and all I have to do is highlight the text I want to > reply to. ... > I don't use "Thunderbird" so I cannot comment on its > features or deficiencies. Thunderbird has exactly the same feature. A signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digita

Re: Top-posting

2016-04-28 Thread Jerry
On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 11:26:52 +0200, Matthias Apitz stated: >Speaking more technically, the problem is that 'modern' MUA, like >OutLook crap, thunderbird or other browser-like MUA do not invite to >post and quote correctly. They put the cursor above the first line >(sometimes you can not even confi

Re: Top-posting

2016-04-28 Thread Paolo Bolzoni
> Speaking more technically, the problem is that 'modern' MUA, like > OutLook crap, thunderbird or other browser-like MUA do not invite to > post and quote correctly. They put the cursor above the first line > (sometimes you can not even configure this, and also not the correct > citation with '> '

Re: Top-posting

2016-04-28 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Thursday, April 28, 2016 a las 11:02:30AM +0200, Paolo Bolzoni escribió: > I think this text (or variants) are old as email itself and actually, > while funny, makes little sense. > > When you follow an email thread you do not read everything, you just > read the new email and it makes lit

Re: Top-posting

2016-04-28 Thread Paolo Bolzoni
I think this text (or variants) are old as email itself and actually, while funny, makes little sense. When you follow an email thread you do not read everything, you just read the new email and it makes little difference if it is in the top. Besides most email clients actually put an indentation

Re: Is there a foolproof tutorial to start with gpgme?

2016-04-28 Thread Johannes Zarl-Zierl
On Tuesday 26 April 2016 12:44:44 Robert J. Hansen wrote: > Please note: since CMake doesn't have a plugin (yet) to automatically > detect GPGME The usual way is for a library to provide a PackageConfig.cmake file. The old- style FindPackage.cmake "plugins" are very much deprecated and it's hard t

Re: Top-posting

2016-04-28 Thread mick crane
even shorter, A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? On 2016-04-28 08:20, Werner Koch wrote: Everyone is going to steal this. FWIW: Perry E. Metzger gives thi

Re: Req: 64-bit GnuPG/GPGME for Windows

2016-04-28 Thread Werner Koch
On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 17:41, r...@sixdemonbag.org said: > Besides my contract requiring 64-bit deliverables? :) A 32-bit GnuPG Then let's have a sub-contract :-) > standalone executable is okay, but my code needs to be 64-bit, which > means a 64-bit GPGME DLL. GPGME does currently not receive t

Re: Querying gpg-agent configuration options

2016-04-28 Thread Werner Koch
On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 18:02, eric.pru...@gmail.com said: > query the information from gpg-agent, it parses the configuration files > which is not what I need. Am I missing something? If it matters, the It parses the configuration files and also consults gpg-agent to test which are options are enabl

Re: Top-posting

2016-04-28 Thread Werner Koch
> Everyone is going to steal this. FWIW: Perry E. Metzger gives this shorter version for many years: A3: Please. Q3: Should I avoid top posting on this mailing list? A2: Because, by reversing the order of a conversation, it leaves the reader without much context, and makes them read a messag