Re: [admin] What is top posting, and why should you avoid it?

2008-07-22 Thread Andrew Berg
Faramir wrote: Andrew Berg escribió: Faramir wrote: It happens too with pop3... I hate that "feature"... well, it (gmail) had to have some disadvantage... Not in my experience. That's why I use POP3 instead of IMAP. Do you mean you can see the messages you send to the list? Then I have t

Re: [admin] What is top posting, and why should you avoid it?

2008-07-22 Thread John Clizbe
Faramir wrote: > Do you mean you can see the messages you send to the list? Then I have > to check my config... I am using pop3 too. http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users Bottom of the page, enter email address and click 'Unsubscribe or edit options'. Enter list password and 'log

Re: [admin] What is top posting, and why should you avoid it?

2008-07-21 Thread Faramir
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Andrew Berg escribió: > Faramir wrote: >> It happens too with pop3... I hate that "feature"... well, it (gmail) >> had to have some disadvantage... > > Not in my experience. That's why I use POP3 instead of IMAP. Do you mean you can see the mes

Re: [admin] What is top posting, and why should you avoid it?

2008-07-21 Thread Andrew Berg
Faramir wrote: It happens too with pop3... I hate that "feature"... well, it (gmail) had to have some disadvantage... Not in my experience. That's why I use POP3 instead of IMAP. -- Key ID: 0xF88E034060A78FCB Fingerprint: 4A84 CAE2 A0D3 2AEB 71F6 07FD F88E 0340 60A7 8FCB Windows NT 6.0.6001.

Re: [admin] What is top posting, and why should you avoid it?

2008-07-20 Thread Faramir
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Alexander W. Janssen escribió: >> It also wanted to have the same messages in the Inbox folder as well >> as the All Mail folder. How silly. > > Yeah, Google makes a difference between Inbox and "All Mail". They have > this enormous stupid claim:

Re: [admin] What is top posting, and why should you avoid it?

2008-07-20 Thread Faramir
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Alexander W. Janssen escribió: > Andrew Berg wrote: >> On a side note, is there any reason I didn't see the last message I sent >> to the list? > > You're using Gmail... And probably IMAP? Common problem. Google calls it > a "feature". You need to o

Re: [admin] What is top posting, and why should you avoid it?

2008-07-19 Thread John B
On 18 July 08, Robert J. Hansen wrote: > John B wrote: > > That's what the subject line is for. After that, it should be all > > reading as if one is reading a book and seeing things in the logical > > order and way people were taught to read and respond. > > I don't know about you, but when I for

Re: [admin] What is top posting, and why should you avoid it?

2008-07-19 Thread Werner Koch
On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > Does anyone know of a way to get M$ LookOut to support PGP/MIME properly > (in particular, mails with attachments)? GpgOL (from gpg4win) does that. The version in 1.1.3 is a bit limited and probably has a couple of bugs. The beta version in 1

Re: [admin] What is top posting, and why should you avoid it?

2008-07-19 Thread David SMITH
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 04:19:47AM +0200, Alexander W. Janssen wrote: > John B wrote: > > Throw it away and get one that does things correctly? > > Unfortunately many people are stuck with inconvenient solution where > they have no influence in getting something better. > > Ha. Me and my Outloo

Re: [admin] What is top posting, and why should you avoid it?

2008-07-18 Thread Robert J. Hansen
John B wrote: > That's what the subject line is for. After that, it should be all > reading as if one is reading a book and seeing things in the logical > order and way people were taught to read and respond. I don't know about you, but when I forward an academic paper on to a colleague, I write a

Re: [admin] What is top posting, and why should you avoid it?

2008-07-18 Thread John B
On 18 July 08, Andrew Berg wrote: > John B wrote: > > On 17 July 08, John Clizbe wrote: > >> A4: Yes, *only* when introducing the text of a forwarded message > >> Q4: Is it ever OK to top post? > > > > A: Wrong, it's *never* correct, it leads only to someone, *again*, > > trying to argue that so

Re: [admin] What is top posting, and why should you avoid it?

2008-07-18 Thread Alexander W. Janssen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John B wrote: > Throw it away and get one that does things correctly? Unfortunately many people are stuck with inconvenient solution where they have no influence in getting something better. Ha. Me and my Outlook at work. Bargh. Alex. -BEGIN

Re: [admin] What is top posting, and why should you avoid it?

2008-07-18 Thread Alexander W. Janssen
Andrew Berg wrote: > Alexander W. Janssen wrote: >> Andrew Berg wrote: >>> On a side note, is there any reason I didn't see the last message >>> I sent to the list? >> >> You're using Gmail... And probably IMAP? Common problem. Google >> calls it a "feature". You need to open the "All Mail" fold

Re: [admin] What is top posting, and why should you avoid it?

2008-07-18 Thread Andrew Berg
Alexander W. Janssen wrote: Andrew Berg wrote: On a side note, is there any reason I didn't see the last message I sent to the list? You're using Gmail... And probably IMAP? Common problem. Google calls it a "feature". You need to open the "All Mail" folder instead of the inbox. I'm using POP3

Re: [admin] What is top posting, and why should you avoid it?

2008-07-18 Thread Alexander W. Janssen
Andrew Berg wrote: > On a side note, is there any reason I didn't see the last message I sent > to the list? You're using Gmail... And probably IMAP? Common problem. Google calls it a "feature". You need to open the "All Mail" folder instead of the inbox. Cheers, Alex. signature.asc Descript

Re: [admin] What is top posting, and why should you avoid it?

2008-07-18 Thread Andrew Berg
Alexander W. Janssen wrote: Andrew Berg wrote: James P. Howard, II wrote: A minor vent: the problem now is the proliferation of mobile devices which make it too difficult to not top post. Users, at this point, are fooled into thinking this is the correct form due to the lack of a practical al

Re: [admin] What is top posting, and why should you avoid it?

2008-07-18 Thread Andrew Berg
John B wrote: On 17 July 08, John Clizbe wrote: A4: Yes, *only* when introducing the text of a forwarded message Q4: Is it ever OK to top post? A: Wrong, it's *never* correct, it leads only to someone, *again*, trying to argue that somehow it's okay, and still discombobulates everything.

Re: [admin] What is top posting, and why should you avoid it?

2008-07-18 Thread Alexander W. Janssen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Berg wrote: > James P. Howard, II wrote: >> A minor vent: the problem now is the proliferation of mobile devices >> which make it too difficult to not top post. Users, at this point, >> are fooled into thinking this is the correct form due to

Re: [admin] What is top posting, and why should you avoid it?

2008-07-17 Thread Andrew Berg
James P. Howard, II wrote: A minor vent: the problem now is the proliferation of mobile devices which make it too difficult to not top post. Users, at this point, are fooled into thinking this is the correct form due to the lack of a practical alternative. I think top-posting is common historic

Re: [admin] What is top posting, and why should you avoid it?

2008-07-17 Thread John B
On 17 July 08, James P. Howard, II wrote: > A minor vent: the problem now is the proliferation of mobile devices > which make it too difficult to not top post. Users, at this point, > are fooled into thinking this is the correct form due to the lack of a > practical alternative. > > Sent from my

Re: [admin] What is top posting, and why should you avoid it?

2008-07-17 Thread John B
On 17 July 08, John Clizbe wrote: > A4: Yes, *only* when introducing the text of a forwarded message > Q4: Is it ever OK to top post? A: Wrong, it's *never* correct, it leads only to someone, *again*, trying to argue that somehow it's okay, and still discombobulates everything. If they don't

Re: [admin] What is top posting, and why should you avoid it?

2008-07-17 Thread James P. Howard, II
A minor vent: the problem now is the proliferation of mobile devices which make it too difficult to not top post. Users, at this point, are fooled into thinking this is the correct form due to the lack of a practical alternative. Sent from my BlackBerry... James On 7/17/08, John Clizbe <[EMAI

Re: [admin] What is top posting, and why should you avoid it?

2008-07-17 Thread John Clizbe
A4: Yes, *only* when introducing the text of a forwarded message Q4: Is it ever OK to top post? Werner Koch wrote: > A3: Please. > Q3: Should I avoid top posting on this mailing list? > > A2: Because, by reversing the order of a conversation, it leaves the > reader without much context, and m

[admin] What is top posting, and why should you avoid it?

2008-07-17 Thread Werner Koch
A3: Please. Q3: Should I avoid top posting on this mailing list? A2: Because, by reversing the order of a conversation, it leaves the reader without much context, and makes them read a message in an unnatural order. Q2: Why is top posting irritating? A1: It is the practice of putting your