Re: A Solution for Sending Messages Safely from EFAIL-safe Senders to EFAIL-unsafe Receivers

2018-05-30 Thread Mark H. Wood
On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 08:22:33AM -1100, Mirimir wrote: > On 05/28/2018 12:15 AM, Werner Koch wrote: > > On Thu, 24 May 2018 00:05, gnupg-us...@spodhuis.org said: > > > >> up at . > > > > Given that I see more and more mails with "Encrypted mail" as subje

Re: A Solution for Sending Messages Safely from EFAIL-safe Senders to EFAIL-unsafe Receivers

2018-05-29 Thread Mirimir
On 05/28/2018 12:15 AM, Werner Koch wrote: > On Thu, 24 May 2018 00:05, gnupg-us...@spodhuis.org said: > >> up at . > > Given that I see more and more mails with "Encrypted mail" as subject, > this feature is getting more and more annoying. It will eventu

Re: A Solution for Sending Messages Safely from EFAIL-safe Senders to EFAIL-unsafe Receivers

2018-05-28 Thread Robert J. Hansen
> Regarding the subject there is a simple and also fun solution: If you > need to hide the subject, use a nonsense phrase instead. Such a phrase > makes mental pre-sorting as effecitive as an on-topic subject. Or, better, use a system of random nonsense phrases. Let's say you have seven differen

Re: A Solution for Sending Messages Safely from EFAIL-safe Senders to EFAIL-unsafe Receivers

2018-05-28 Thread Werner Koch
On Thu, 24 May 2018 00:05, gnupg-us...@spodhuis.org said: > up at . Given that I see more and more mails with "Encrypted mail" as subject, this feature is getting more and more annoying. It will eventually not anymore possible to pre-sort mails as it is c

Re: A Solution for Sending Messages Safely from EFAIL-safe Senders to EFAIL-unsafe Receivers

2018-05-24 Thread Craig P Hicks
Thanks Phil. Very interesting! I will look into that. On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 3:05 PM, Phil Pennock wrote: > On 2018-05-22 at 19:35 -0700, Craig P Hicks wrote: > > "A Solution for Sending Messages Safely from EFAIL-safe Senders to > > EFAIL-unsafe Receivers" &

Re: A Solution for Sending Messages Safely from EFAIL-safe Senders to EFAIL-unsafe Receivers

2018-05-23 Thread Phil Pennock
On 2018-05-22 at 19:35 -0700, Craig P Hicks wrote: > "A Solution for Sending Messages Safely from EFAIL-safe Senders to > EFAIL-unsafe Receivers" > > https://github.com/craigphicks/efail-safe-send-to-insec-recv/wiki There's an existing semi-standard for trying to impro

Re: A Solution for Sending Messages Safely from EFAIL-safe Senders to EFAIL-unsafe Receivers

2018-05-23 Thread NdK
Il 23/05/2018 04:35, Craig P Hicks ha scritto: > When decrypted by the user in its raw form the total message will be > human readable but a little ugly because it contains the obfuscation > string *o*, but it will be safe from EFAIL. While that could be OK for human-readable files, it silently al

A Solution for Sending Messages Safely from EFAIL-safe Senders to EFAIL-unsafe Receivers

2018-05-23 Thread Craig P Hicks
being read by an EFAIL attacker. A solution to this problem is proposed in "A Solution for Sending Messages Safely from EFAIL-safe Senders to EFAIL-unsafe Receivers" https://github.com/craigphicks/efail-safe-send-to-insec-recv/wiki Because each block is vulnerable, the solution w