Re: FAQ: seeking consensus

2019-10-21 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Steffen Nurpmeso wrote in <20191021160908.4_hgk%stef...@sdaoden.eu>: |Vincent Breitmoser wrote in <2UJQOP6NMJE80.2FS52GC36TCEU@my.amazin.horse>: ||> Especially if the key is shipped alongside the message already || ||Are you sure that it is though? Seems to me you're giving out ill-informed

Re: FAQ: seeking consensus

2019-10-21 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Steffen Nurpmeso wrote in <20191021160908.4_hgk%stef...@sdaoden.eu>: 'Just want to add that the DKIM i refer to in my first message is in my eyes not a solution but a desastrous demolition ball of the mail standard, and as such hatred by me, and the reply-to: that was pointing to Tony Lane's real

Re: FAQ: seeking consensus

2019-10-21 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Vincent Breitmoser wrote in <2UJQOP6NMJE80.2FS52GC36TCEU@my.amazin.horse>: | |> Especially if the key is shipped alongside the message already | |Are you sure that it is though? Seems to me you're giving out ill-informed |advice here. Bad advice of mine yes, PGP does not do it the way S/MIME

Re: FAQ: seeking consensus

2019-10-20 Thread Vincent Breitmoser via Gnupg-users
> Especially if the key is shipped alongside the message already Are you sure that it is though? Seems to me you're giving out ill-informed advice here. - V ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org

Re: FAQ: seeking consensus

2019-10-19 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Hello Tony. Tony Lane via Gnupg-users wrote in : |On 10/18/19 2:12 PM, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: |> (redacted)... there are drugs and other specialists which |> can make you talk and reveal that presence. At some later time |> i would expect a court order to access log etc. data in and of the

Re: FAQ: seeking consensus

2019-10-18 Thread Tony Lane via Gnupg-users
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 10/18/19 2:12 PM, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: > (redacted)... there are drugs and other specialists which > can make you talk and reveal that presence. At some later time > i would expect a court order to access log etc. data in and of the > brain

Re: FAQ: seeking consensus

2019-10-18 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Tony Lane via Gnupg-users wrote in : |-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- |Hash: SHA512 That seems to be a good choice. |On 10/17/19 3:38 PM, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: |> You know, i would say people should be advised to use the most |> compatible, most secure keys available for their "very

Re: FAQ: seeking consensus

2019-10-18 Thread Stefan Claas via Gnupg-users
Vincent Breitmoser wrote: > > It would be nice if you can add to the keyserver list also the > > mailvelope.com keyserver, > > I concur keys.mailvelope.com is a fine keyserver today. However, you might > want to consider: > > > because it requires users to authenticate their keys against the

Re: FAQ: seeking consensus

2019-10-18 Thread Vincent Breitmoser via Gnupg-users
> It would be nice if you can add to the keyserver list also the > mailvelope.com keyserver, I concur keys.mailvelope.com is a fine keyserver today. However, you might want to consider: > because it requires users to authenticate their keys against the keyserver > with an received encrypted

Re: FAQ: seeking consensus

2019-10-18 Thread Michał Górny via Gnupg-users
On Fri, 2019-10-18 at 09:19 +0200, Stefan Claas via Gnupg-users wrote: > Robert J. Hansen wrote: > > > 1. How should we handle the SKS keyserver attacks? > > I would list in the FAQ the kind of attacks possible, > to educate users, before they choose one for uploading > their key. > > > One

Re: FAQ: seeking consensus // SKS plans

2019-10-18 Thread Vincent Breitmoser via Gnupg-users
> 1. How should we handle the SKS keyserver attacks? Worth mentioning that at the openpgp summit recently, Kristian announced some plans that the SKS pool would: 1) Move implementation from SKS to Hockeypuck 2) Disable search by user id entirely 3) Filter out third party signatures, at least

Re: FAQ: seeking consensus

2019-10-18 Thread Stefan Claas via Gnupg-users
Robert J. Hansen wrote: > 1. How should we handle the SKS keyserver attacks? I would list in the FAQ the kind of attacks possible, to educate users, before they choose one for uploading their key. > One school of thought says "SKS is tremendously diminished as a > resource, because using it

Re: FAQ: seeking consensus

2019-10-18 Thread Michał Górny via Gnupg-users
On Thu, 2019-10-17 at 15:18 -0400, Robert J. Hansen wrote: > 1. How should we handle the SKS keyserver attacks? > > One school of thought says "SKS is tremendously diminished as a > resource, because using it can wedge older GnuPG installations and we > can't make people upgrade. We should

Re: FAQ: seeking consensus

2019-10-17 Thread Teemu Likonen via Gnupg-users
Robert J. Hansen [2019-10-17T15:18:07-04] wrote: > 1. How should we handle the SKS keyserver attacks? > > One school of thought says "SKS is tremendously diminished as a > resource, because using it can wedge older GnuPG installations and we > can't make people upgrade. We should recommend

Re: FAQ: seeking consensus

2019-10-17 Thread Tony Lane via Gnupg-users
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 10/17/19 3:38 PM, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: > You know, i would say people should be advised to use the most > compatible, most secure keys available for their "very key". > Regardless of computing cost that is. And use specific "weaker", >

Re: FAQ: seeking consensus

2019-10-17 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Robert J. Hansen wrote in <99710af5-92ac-dbdd-afe9-d60d89614a76@sixdemon\ bag.org>: ... |1. How should we handle the SKS keyserver attacks? ... |Another says, "with a recent GnuPG release SKS may be used productively |and we should keep the current advice." I am using them, and have had

Re: FAQ: seeking consensus

2019-10-17 Thread Johan Wevers
On 17-10-2019 21:18, Robert J. Hansen wrote: > 1. How should we handle the SKS keyserver attacks? > > One school of thought says "SKS is tremendously diminished as a > resource, because using it can wedge older GnuPG installations and we > can't make people upgrade. We should recommend people

FAQ: seeking consensus

2019-10-17 Thread Robert J. Hansen
Unless there's no objection, I'll be making the edit to PGPNET's mailing list address, as that seems uncontroversial. I'd like to get a sense of the community on the other two changes I made. Werner and I disagree on certain things (which is understandable and okay!), and I'd really like to get