Offline Primary Key

2010-03-01 Thread Phillip Susi
I would like to keep the private portion of my primary key stored offline and use an expiring secondary key for day to day signing. To accomplish this I have tried backing up the key after creating the secondary signing key, then attempting to delete the private portion of the primary key from

Re: Offline Primary Key

2010-03-01 Thread David Shaw
On Mar 1, 2010, at 12:20 PM, Phillip Susi wrote: > I would like to keep the private portion of my primary key stored offline and > use an expiring secondary key for day to day signing. To accomplish this I > have tried backing up the key after creating the secondary signing key, then > attempt

Re: Offline Primary Key

2010-03-01 Thread John Clizbe
David Shaw wrote: > > Didn't someone write a nice HOWTO about offline private keys at one point? I > thought there was one out there, but can't find it at the moment. Can anyone > post the URL for Philip? > Adrian von Bidder's page is the only one that memory serves up: http://fortytwo.ch/gpg/su

Re: Offline Primary Key

2010-03-01 Thread Grant Olson
> > Can anyone post the URL for Philip? > > David > http://fortytwo.ch/gpg/subkeys signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users

Re: Offline Primary Key

2010-03-01 Thread Phillip Susi
On 3/1/2010 1:57 PM, David Shaw wrote: What you need to do is an --export-secret-subkeys (there is no such command as --delete-primary-keys). So, starting from a state where your whole key (primary and all secondaries) are all imported to your GPG instance, do: Yes, I meant --delete-secret-k

Re: Offline Primary Key

2010-03-01 Thread David Shaw
On Mar 1, 2010, at 2:59 PM, John Clizbe wrote: > David Shaw wrote: >> >> Didn't someone write a nice HOWTO about offline private keys at one point? I >> thought there was one out there, but can't find it at the moment. Can anyone >> post the URL for Philip? >> > > Adrian von Bidder's page is th

Re: Offline Primary Key

2010-03-01 Thread David Shaw
On Mar 1, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Phillip Susi wrote: > On 3/1/2010 1:57 PM, David Shaw wrote: >> What you need to do is an --export-secret-subkeys (there is no such command >> as --delete-primary-keys). So, starting from a state where your whole key >> (primary and all secondaries) are all imported

Re: Offline Primary Key

2010-03-01 Thread David Shaw
On Mar 1, 2010, at 4:11 PM, Phillip Susi wrote: > On 3/1/2010 3:37 PM, David Shaw wrote: >>> This does the trick, but I still do not understand why >>> --delete-secret-key removes BOTH the primary and subkey secrets >>> when I specifically gave only the ID of the subkey? Shouldn't it >>> remove e

Re: Offline Primary Key

2010-03-01 Thread Phillip Susi
On 3/1/2010 3:37 PM, David Shaw wrote: This does the trick, but I still do not understand why --delete-secret-key removes BOTH the primary and subkey secrets when I specifically gave only the ID of the subkey? Shouldn't it remove exactly what I say and no more? It has to do with how keys are s

Re: Offline Primary Key

2010-03-01 Thread Faramir
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 David Shaw escribió: ... > Didn't someone write a nice HOWTO about offline private keys at one point? I > thought there was one out there, but can't find it at the moment. Can anyone > post the URL for Philip? http://tjl73.altervista.org/secur

Re: Offline Primary Key

2010-03-02 Thread Werner Koch
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 22:13, ds...@jabberwocky.com said: > someone elses key. The current design effectively forces people to > manually move the valuable primary key out of the way before > clobbering it with the subkey-only copy of the key. Another important point is that if you want to use an o

Re: Offline Primary Key

2010-03-02 Thread Faramir
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Werner Koch escribió: ... > Another important point is that if you want to use an offline key you > should create that key offline and export the subkeys to the online box. > Doing this on the same box is a bit questionable. To me an offline key > i

Re: Offline Primary Key

2010-03-02 Thread Ingo Klöcker
On Tuesday 02 March 2010, Faramir wrote: > Werner Koch escribió: > ... > > > Another important point is that if you want to use an offline key > > you should create that key offline and export the subkeys to the > > online box. Doing this on the same box is a bit questionable. To > > me an offlin

OpenPGP smartcard with offline primary key

2005-04-01 Thread Peter L. Smilde
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, Another question araised while testing my new OpenPGP smartcard: I have an offline keysigning key and would like to add a signing and an encryption key to it for online use, with the secret parts of the last two on the smartcard. So I performe

How to use an "offline" primary key

2010-01-02 Thread Sven Radde
Hello GnuPG-Users! With a new year comes a new keypair and this time I tried to use subkeys to separate my secret primary key from the "day-to-day" encryption/signing keys. Using options "--no-default-keyrings --secret-keyring secring2.gpg --public-keyring pubring2.gpg" I generated the primary ke

Re: OpenPGP smartcard with offline primary key

2005-04-01 Thread Jan Niehusmann
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 01:57:51PM +0200, Peter L. Smilde wrote: > This is OK for the offline secret keyring. But my online secret keyring > shouldn't contain the secret primary keysigning key (as before). Isn't this exactly the approach described in the thread "Clarification on purpose of subordi

Re: OpenPGP smartcard with offline primary key

2005-04-01 Thread Peter L. Smilde
Jan Niehusmann schrieb: > Isn't this exactly the approach described in the thread "Clarification > on purpose of subordinate keys" two days ago? There was a very nice > step-by-step description posted by Dirk Traulsen. You're right. I already knew the "purpose", but the thread clarified this speci

Re: OpenPGP smartcard with offline primary key

2005-04-01 Thread Thomas Hühn
Am Freitag 01 April 2005 13:57 schrieb Peter L. Smilde: > "OpenPGP smartcard HOWTO", section "Advanced features", subsection > "Using the card only for subkeys". I think I have missed that mail. Could someone mail it to me, please? Or is it a web site? Google doesn't know about it. Thomas

Re: OpenPGP smartcard with offline primary key

2005-04-01 Thread Jan Niehusmann
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 03:23:06PM +0200, Thomas Hühn wrote: > I think I have missed that mail. Could someone mail it to me, please? > > Or is it a web site? Google doesn't know about it. http://www.kernelconcepts.de/products/Smartcard-HOWTO.txt ___ Gn

Re: How to use an "offline" primary key

2010-01-04 Thread Peter Lebbing
Sven Radde wrote: > I thought that I would simply 'include' the primary key by adding > "--secret-keyring secring2.gpg" whenever I need it for these kinds of > operations, but GnuPG complains about missing parts of the secret key > regardless of whether this option is present of not. AFAIK, GnuPG

Re: How to use an "offline" primary key

2010-01-04 Thread M.B.Jr.
Hi list, I wish a great 2010 year for everybody! On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Sven Radde wrote: > Hello GnuPG-Users! > > With a new year comes a new keypair and this time I tried to use subkeys > to separate my secret primary key from the "day-to-day" > encryption/signing keys. Concerning

Re: How to use an "offline" primary key

2010-01-04 Thread Sven Radde
Hi! Peter Lebbing schrieb: > By exchanging the order of the keyrings, hopefully this will mean it looks for > the key in secring2.gpg first, where the primary key is included too. Works fine for certifying other people's keys, thank you! However, since all updates to the my key would be done to