Re: Paperkey question

2009-02-10 Thread Scott Lambdin
The black helicopters can read the paper copies in your house with microwaves. On 2/9/09, David Shaw ds...@jabberwocky.com wrote: You can't take a public key and just attach the blob to the end. A secret key is made up of secret key packets. You need to convert your individual public key

Re: Paperkey question

2009-02-09 Thread Faramir
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Benjamin Donnachie escribió: ... Because media degrades and unlikely that the media of today will be readable in the future. For example, you can't get 8 or 5.25 floppies for love nor money these days and 3.5' floppies are likely to go the same

Re: Paperkey question

2009-02-09 Thread Ian Hill
David I seem to be having some problems using the papertest key provided with the application (attached) and the associated key to create a paperkey I have extracted the following octets for each key and subkey. Key 1 FE 03 03 02 56 AC A0 3D F2 14 48 D2 60 22 90 E7 0A 58 94 51 F7 3D 5B 2A 4D 9C

Re: Paperkey question

2009-02-09 Thread David Shaw
On Feb 9, 2009, at 7:07 AM, Ian Hill wrote: David I seem to be having some problems using the papertest key provided with the application (attached) and the associated key to create a paperkey I have extracted the following octets for each key and subkey. Key 1 FE 03 03 02 56 AC A0 3D

RE: Paperkey question

2009-02-09 Thread i...@ushills.co.uk
@gnupg.org List gnupg-users@gnupg.org Subject: Re: Paperkey question On Feb 9, 2009, at 7:07 AM, Ian Hill wrote: David I seem to be having some problems using the papertest key provided with the application (attached) and the associated key to create a paperkey I have extracted the following

Re: Paperkey question

2009-02-09 Thread David Shaw
You can't take a public key and just attach the blob to the end. A secret key is made up of secret key packets. You need to convert your individual public key packets to secret key packets. Split the public key into packets, convert the individual packets, then reassemble the key. Run

Paperkey question

2009-02-08 Thread Ian Hill
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have a question about paperkey, bearing in mind that this application may not always be available can one restore the secret key just using the printed paperkey and the public key from keyservers manually. Otherwise if I know I can always get a

Re: Paperkey question

2009-02-08 Thread Faramir
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Ian Hill escribió: I have a question about paperkey, bearing in mind that this application may not always be available can one restore the secret key just using the printed paperkey and the public key from keyservers manually. I know David

Re: Paperkey question

2009-02-08 Thread Benjamin Donnachie
2009/2/8 Faramir faramir...@gmail.com: Right, I sent myself a copy of paperkey, to my e-mail account at gmail and yahoo... one of them should survive... and if the program can't run on the operating systems available at the time when it is needed, I suppose there will still be virtual

Re: Paperkey question

2009-02-08 Thread Benjamin Donnachie
2009/2/8 Ian Hill i...@ushills.co.uk: Correct you print it out, but I cannot find how to re-compile the key manually from the paperkey and the public key. If you can do this without the paperkey programme this seems a good solution, otherwise why not keep an e-copy of your secret key as this

Re: Paperkey question

2009-02-08 Thread David Shaw
On Feb 8, 2009, at 5:48 AM, Ian Hill wrote: I have a question about paperkey, bearing in mind that this application may not always be available can one restore the secret key just using the printed paperkey and the public key from keyservers manually. Yes, you can. That was one of the

Re: Paperkey question

2009-02-08 Thread Ingo Klöcker
On Sunday 08 February 2009, Ian Hill wrote: I have a question about paperkey, bearing in mind that this application may not always be available can one restore the secret key just using the printed paperkey and the public key from keyservers manually. Yes. All you need to know is the format

Re: Paperkey question

2009-02-08 Thread Alex Amiryan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've printed out my paperkey and keeping it in my home. I am not making any illegal things, so police will not come to investigate my house one day :). So it is secure for me in case that one day my home and work computers explode at the same time :)

Re: Paperkey question

2009-02-08 Thread Ian Hill
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Can you explain the instructions, do you just add the octets to the end of the public key. Is this the same with multiple subkeys. David Shaw wrote: On Feb 8, 2009, at 5:48 AM, Ian Hill wrote: I have a question about paperkey, bearing in

Re: Paperkey question

2009-02-08 Thread Ingo Klöcker
On Sunday 08 February 2009, Alex Amiryan wrote: I've printed out my paperkey and keeping it in my home. I am not making any illegal things, so police will not come to investigate my house one day :). You are using GnuPG. Unfortunately, this makes you suspicious in the eyes of lots of people.

Re: Paperkey question

2009-02-08 Thread Dirk Zemisch
Hello Ingo, hello GnuPG Users, On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:36:48 +0100 Ingo Klöcker kloec...@kde.org wrote: On Sunday 08 February 2009, Ian Hill wrote: I have a question about paperkey, bearing in mind that this application may not always be available can one restore the secret key just using

Re: Paperkey question

2009-02-08 Thread Benjamin Donnachie
2009/2/8 Ingo Klöcker kloec...@kde.org: But it's gone if your home and your work place explode at the same time. I think my key would be the last of my worries in such circumstances. Ben ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org

Re: Paperkey question

2009-02-08 Thread David Shaw
On Feb 8, 2009, at 11:00 AM, Dirk Zemisch wrote: Hello Ingo, hello GnuPG Users, On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:36:48 +0100 Ingo Klöcker kloec...@kde.org wrote: On Sunday 08 February 2009, Ian Hill wrote: I have a question about paperkey, bearing in mind that this application may not always be

Fw: Paperkey question

2009-02-08 Thread Dirk Zemisch
Hello, I'Ve got some answers as PM, maybe they are interesting also for other list members... My question was: Does it mean, that anybody who gets the papekey printout can restore my private key - even if he doesn't know my passphrase? Sure? From David Shaw came the following: Yes and no.

Re: Paperkey question

2009-02-08 Thread Alex Amiryan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ingo Klöcker wrote: On Sunday 08 February 2009, Alex Amiryan wrote: I've printed out my paperkey and keeping it in my home. I am not making any illegal things, so police will not come to investigate my house one day :). You are using GnuPG.

Re: Paperkey question

2009-02-08 Thread Ingo Klöcker
On Sunday 08 February 2009, Alex Amiryan wrote: Ingo Klöcker wrote: On Sunday 08 February 2009, Alex Amiryan wrote: I've printed out my paperkey and keeping it in my home. I am not making any illegal things, so police will not come to investigate my house one day :). You are using

Re: Paperkey question

2009-02-08 Thread David Shaw
On Feb 8, 2009, at 10:59 AM, Ian Hill wrote: Can you explain the instructions, do you just add the octets to the end of the public key. Is this the same with multiple subkeys. Yes, and yes. In OpenPGP, a secret key is just a public key with some extra stuff (the secret numbers) tacked

Re: Fw: Paperkey question

2009-02-08 Thread Faramir
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Dirk Zemisch escribió: ... From David Shaw came the following: Yes and no. Someone could restore your private key in the sense that they could recreate the same secret key file that you have. However, they could not use it as the paper key has

Re: Fw: Paperkey question

2009-02-08 Thread Dirk Zemisch
Hello Faramir, hello GnuPG users, On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 02:56:40 -0300 Faramir faramir...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the answers. I always was ready to burn my paperkey print. Now I don't need to do so. ;-) But don't forget it also means if you forget your passphrase, you are toasted...