Re: Thunderbird / Enigmail / Autocrypt

2020-11-23 Thread Werner Koch via Gnupg-users
On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 18:03, gnupgpacker said: > After further investigation about html mailing with Claws Mail: > 'Dillo HTML viewer' project has been updated Jun-2015, not available for > Windows. Mature software does not always need updates. Nevertheless the plugin code was recently updated

Re: Ban HTML mails? Really?(was: Re: Thunderbird / Enigmail / Autocrypt)

2020-11-23 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día martes, noviembre 24, 2020 a las 12:16:12a. m. +, Philihp Busby via Gnupg-users escribió: > As a personal policy, I do not respond to emails if they are only in HTML. It > provides an excellent signal on when an email is actually worth the > distraction. Even

Re: Thunderbird / Enigmail / Autocrypt

2020-11-23 Thread raf via Gnupg-users
On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 01:23:39PM +0100, Werner Koch via Gnupg-users wrote: > On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 07:22, cqcallaw said: > > > At my job, I frequently send out summary charts and graphs surrounded by > > text. > > Attachments simply do not work; my audience cannot spend the mental energy > >

Re: Ban HTML mails? Really?(was: Re: Thunderbird / Enigmail / Autocrypt)

2020-11-23 Thread Philihp Busby via Gnupg-users
As a personal policy, I do not respond to emails if they are only in HTML. It provides an excellent signal on when an email is actually worth the distraction. Even password-reset/verify-your-email emails will have text-only components. Mailchimp marketing emails, on the other hand, often skip

RE: Thunderbird / Enigmail / Autocrypt

2020-11-23 Thread gnupgpacker
Thanks Werner. After further investigation about html mailing with Claws Mail: 'Dillo HTML viewer' project has been updated Jun-2015, not available for Windows. 'litehtml' is available for Windows, but latest update is Oct-2015. In our environment ~ 70% of contacts are using M$ Outlook and its

Re: Thunderbird / Enigmail / Autocrypt

2020-11-23 Thread Johan Wevers
On 23-11-2020 7:08, Matthias Apitz wrote: > Since ages human read mails in ASCII or UTF-8 text. Why you think this > is not a "human readable format"? Sure, hand crafted html in a text reader is human readable. But the html that is vomited by Outlook is not (unless you are a very experienced web

Re: Thunderbird / Enigmail / Autocrypt

2020-11-23 Thread Mark H. Wood via Gnupg-users
On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 07:08:12AM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día lunes, noviembre 23, 2020 a las 03:03:54a. m. +0100, Johan Wevers > escribió: > > > On 22-11-2020 12:38, Juergen Bruckner via Gnupg-users wrote: > > > > > I don't understand why HTML in e-Mails is so important for some

Re: Thunderbird / Enigmail / Autocrypt

2020-11-23 Thread Werner Koch via Gnupg-users
On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 10:02, gnupgpacker said: > Claws Mail is an useful alternative, but please keep aware it does not > support html mail, text only! > https://www.claws-mail.org/manual/de/claws-mail-manual.html#AEN955 Just load one of the HTML viewer plugins. Note that most plugins are an

Re: Thunderbird / Enigmail / Autocrypt

2020-11-23 Thread Werner Koch via Gnupg-users
On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 07:22, cqcallaw said: > At my job, I frequently send out summary charts and graphs surrounded by text. > Attachments simply do not work; my audience cannot spend the mental energy to Proper MUAs display inline images without problems. I recall that even exmh did this ~25

Ban HTML mails? Really?(was: Re: Thunderbird / Enigmail / Autocrypt)

2020-11-23 Thread Mansfeld Elektronik
I'm sorry, but all this stuff becomes slightly off-topic Am 23.11.2020 07:08, schrieb Matthias Apitz: El día lunes, noviembre 23, 2020 a las 03:03:54a. m. +0100, Johan Wevers escribió: On 22-11-2020 12:38, Juergen Bruckner via Gnupg-users wrote: > I don't understand why HTML in e-Mails

Re: Thunderbird / Enigmail / Autocrypt

2020-11-23 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día lunes, noviembre 23, 2020 a las 07:22:19a. m. +, cqcallaw escribió: > > Since ages human read mails in ASCII or UTF-8 text. Why you think this > > is not a "human readable format"? > > > > HTML as e-mail (read carefully: as email, not as attachment) should be > > forbidden because most

Re: Thunderbird / Enigmail / Autocrypt

2020-11-22 Thread cqcallaw via Gnupg-users
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Sunday, November 22, 2020 10:08 PM, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día lunes, noviembre 23, 2020 a las 03:03:54a. m. +0100, Johan Wevers > escribió: > > > On 22-11-2020 12:38, Juergen Bruckner via Gnupg-users wrote: > > > > > I don't understand why HTML in

Re: Thunderbird / Enigmail / Autocrypt

2020-11-22 Thread Daniel Bossert via Gnupg-users
On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 07:22:19 + cqcallaw via Gnupg-users wrote: > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Sunday, November 22, 2020 10:08 PM, Matthias Apitz > wrote: > > > El día lunes, noviembre 23, 2020 a las 03:03:54a. m. +0100, Johan Wevers > > escribió: > > > > > On 22-11-2020 12:38,

Re: Thunderbird / Enigmail / Autocrypt

2020-11-22 Thread Daniel Bossert via Gnupg-users
I don't know if this is the right place here, but as we are discussing about sylpheed and claws-mail as well: I have the following issue with Sylpheed: I searched in Sylpheed for an email of April 20, 2020 for an insurance. I could easily find it in Thunderbird, but Sylpheed couldn't find it. I

Re: Thunderbird / Enigmail / Autocrypt

2020-11-22 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día lunes, noviembre 23, 2020 a las 03:03:54a. m. +0100, Johan Wevers escribió: > On 22-11-2020 12:38, Juergen Bruckner via Gnupg-users wrote: > > > I don't understand why HTML in e-Mails is so important for some people. > > I agree on a personal level, but if you use your email also to >

Re: Thunderbird / Enigmail / Autocrypt

2020-11-22 Thread Johan Wevers
On 22-11-2020 12:38, Juergen Bruckner via Gnupg-users wrote: > I don't understand why HTML in e-Mails is so important for some people. I agree on a personal level, but if you use your email also to communicate with business users (usually using Outlook) it would be nice to get their mails in a

Re: Thunderbird / Enigmail / Autocrypt

2020-11-22 Thread Jerry
On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 16:17:37 +, Brad Rogers stated: >True, but when my bank (just one example) tells me about their 'caring >about security' and then spewing HTML left, right, and centre, whilst >simultaneously disavowing themselves of blame should a virus be >transported by their message,

Re: Thunderbird / Enigmail / Autocrypt

2020-11-22 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 16:06:41 + Andrew Gallagher wrote: Hello Andrew, >It is not always feasible to scold your correspondents about their use >of HTML mail, True, but when my bank (just one example) tells me about their 'caring about security' and then spewing HTML left, right, and centre,

Re: Thunderbird / Enigmail / Autocrypt

2020-11-22 Thread Andrew Gallagher
> On 22 Nov 2020, at 11:40, Juergen Bruckner via Gnupg-users > wrote: > > HTML in e-Mails is a very big security risk in my eyes. Not just yours, but unfortunately for many people it is a risk that they must absorb, because e.g. their job may depend upon it. It is not always feasible to

Re: Thunderbird / Enigmail / Autocrypt

2020-11-22 Thread ael via Gnupg-users
On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 12:38:52PM +0100, Juergen Bruckner via Gnupg-users wrote: > > I don't understand why HTML in e-Mails is so important for some people. > > For example, I configured my Mailserver to sort out HTML-Mails as Spam as > long the sender is not on a whitelist. > HTML in e-Mails

Re: Thunderbird / Enigmail / Autocrypt

2020-11-22 Thread Juergen Bruckner via Gnupg-users
Hi Chris, Am 22.11.20 um 10:02 schrieb gnupgpacker: Claws Mail is an useful alternative, but please keep aware it does not support html mail, text only! https://www.claws-mail.org/manual/de/claws-mail-manual.html#AEN955 Best regards, Chris I don't understand why HTML in e-Mails is so

Thunderbird / Enigmail / Autocrypt

2020-11-22 Thread gnupgpacker
upg-users > Subject: Re: Thunderbird / Enigmail / Autocrypt > Message-ID: <87sg92lhae@wheatstone.g10code.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > ... > Checkout Claws-mail which was forked from Sylpheed many years ago. > The > OpenPGP and S/MIME integrati

Re: Thunderbird / Enigmail / Autocrypt

2020-11-21 Thread Daniel Bossert via Gnupg-users
Hello Werner I would like to use claws-mail, but it looked quite old-school when I last used it. There was no auto-configure of mail setup (find mail-server by itself). But I will install it again and check it out. Thank you Daniel On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 19:02:33 +0100 Werner Koch wrote: > On

Re: Thunderbird / Enigmail / Autocrypt

2020-11-21 Thread Werner Koch via Gnupg-users
On Fri, 20 Nov 2020 10:23, Daniel Bossert said: > How secure is it to use Thundebrird with Autocrypt? I use Sylpheed at > the moment, but it is not that comfortable to use as Thunderbird. Checkout Claws-mail which was forked from Sylpheed many years ago. The OpenPGP and S/MIME integration of

Re: Thunderbird / Enigmail / Autocrypt

2020-11-21 Thread Patrick Brunschwig
If you think about using the current stable version of Thunderbird (version 78), then there is no Enigmail and no Autocrypt. OpenPGP has been implemented directly in Thunderbird, but there is currently no Autocrypt support in Thunderbird. -Patrick Daniel Bossert via Gnupg-users wrote on

Thunderbird / Enigmail / Autocrypt

2020-11-20 Thread Daniel Bossert via Gnupg-users
Hello all How secure is it to use Thundebrird with Autocrypt? I use Sylpheed at the moment, but it is not that comfortable to use as Thunderbird. Also, when I send an email, the signature will be shown instead like with thunderbid just an info that the mail is signed Do you have some inputs?