Re: Whishlist for next-gen card

2015-03-12 Thread Joey Castillo
On 20/02/15 09:32, NdK wrote: 1 - support for more keys (expired ENC keys, multiple signature keys) At the very least, adding expired ENC keys to the card spec is a really great suggestion. I'm trying to pitch people on using smart cards to secure their email, and one common question I get

Re: Whishlist for next-gen card

2015-03-02 Thread NdK
Il 01/03/2015 21:54, Peter Lebbing ha scritto: No, I'm talking about that as well. And I don't think the fingerprint of the host is part of the signed data or the signature. Why do you think the fingerprint of the host is part of that? Because I didn't remember well the SSH protocol... By

Re: Whishlist for next-gen card

2015-03-01 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 01/03/15 17:43, NdK wrote: while I was talking of remote user auth (so using openpgp card instead of ~/.ssh/id_* keys -- something that's already doable). No, I'm talking about that as well. And I don't think the fingerprint of the host is part of the signed data or the signature. Why do you

Re: Whishlist for next-gen card

2015-02-27 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 21/02/15 19:54, NdK wrote: 4 - HOTP PINs for signature/certification keys What generates the HOTP then? Do you type a PIN on the HOTP device to get the HOTP? No need. Just an applet on the phone could do. At least if you aren't using the same phone to do the crypto. I don't understand

Re: Whishlist for next-gen card

2015-02-27 Thread NdK
Il 27/02/2015 19:43, Peter Lebbing ha scritto: I don't understand the practical difference between HOTP and the button to confirm an action. That the HOTP doesn't need HW support so it can be implemented in standard smartcards. If that info is embedded in the signature packet, it could add

Re: Whishlist for next-gen card

2015-02-27 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 27/02/15 21:59, NdK wrote: For auth it should be the hash of the host's pub key, the same SSH shows you the first time you connect to that host. I think you're confusing /host/ authentication and /user/ authentication. I was talking about using the auth key on your OpenPGP card to do user

Re: Whishlist for next-gen card

2015-02-22 Thread NdK
Il 22/02/2015 01:46, Yuji -UG- Imai ha scritto: For token type card, how about appending one more usb port to connect keyboard? It's just for inputing PIN/passphrase or out-of-bound auth by hitting the Enter key. USB ten keys like V7 KP0N1-7N0P Numeric keypad looks suitable for this purpose.

Whishlist for next-gen card

2015-02-21 Thread Yuji -UG- Imai
Hi, 2015年2月20日金曜日、NdKndk.cla...@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ndk.cla...@gmail.com');さんは書きました: Hello all. What I'd like to see addressed in future card 6 - support for out-of-band authorization (HW) For token type card, how about appending one more usb port to connect keyboard?

Re: Whishlist for next-gen card

2015-02-21 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On Sat 2015-02-21 06:51:15 -0500, Peter Lebbing wrote: Oh ouch. I suddenly realise something about the canary press-to-decrypt button (point 6). I've thought of a nasty attack. Maybe it's not such a great canary for decryption keys... So I access mail A, which is encrypted, and my PC is

Re: Whishlist for next-gen card

2015-02-21 Thread NdK
Il 21/02/2015 12:51, Peter Lebbing ha scritto: 1 - support for more keys (expired ENC keys, multiple signature keys) Yes! This would be a great feature to keep expired encryption keys on a card. I personally would have no use for more than 1 signature and 1 authentication key, but I don't

Re: Whishlist for next-gen card

2015-02-21 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 20/02/15 09:32, NdK wrote: 1 - support for more keys (expired ENC keys, multiple signature keys) Yes! This would be a great feature to keep expired encryption keys on a card. I personally would have no use for more than 1 signature and 1 authentication key, but I don't see a reason why you

Re: Whishlist for next-gen card

2015-02-21 Thread NdK
Il 21/02/2015 17:54, Daniel Kahn Gillmor ha scritto: If the malware is keeping the session keys around, it can just keep the session keys for everything you ever decrypt, and use them anyway to access your encrypted documents, independent of your button-presses. Or just sniff the PIN. You're

Re: Whishlist for next-gen card

2015-02-20 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Am 20.02.2015 um 09:32 schrieb NdK ndk.cla...@gmail.com: 1 - support for more keys (expired ENC keys, multiple signature keys) And maybe for storing a certification key with a different PIN. 5 - possibility to export private keys to user-certified devices That pretty much defeats the point

Whishlist for next-gen card

2015-02-20 Thread NdK
Hello all. What I'd like to see addressed in future card specifications: 1 - support for more keys (expired ENC keys, multiple signature keys) 2 - different PINs for different keys 3 - separate key for NFC auth (with its own optional PIN) 4 - HOTP PINs for signature/certification keys 5 -

Re: Whishlist for next-gen card

2015-02-20 Thread NdK
Il 20/02/2015 11:36, Jonathan Schleifer ha scritto: 1 - support for more keys (expired ENC keys, multiple signature keys) And maybe for storing a certification key with a different PIN. Wasn't it covered by 2 - different PINs for different keys ? :) 5 - possibility to export private keys to

Re: Whishlist for next-gen card

2015-02-20 Thread Ville Määttä
On 20.02.15 15:27, NdK wrote: 5 - possibility to export private keys to user-certified devices That pretty much defeats the point of using a smart card in the first place. That's not uncontrolled export, and in fact… …(snip)… while importing a key (so that you can't alter -actually it's

Re: Whishlist for next-gen card

2015-02-20 Thread NdK
Il 20/02/2015 16:07, Ville Määttä ha scritto: 5 - possibility to export private keys to user-certified devices That pretty much defeats the point of using a smart card in the first place. That's not uncontrolled export, and in fact… …(snip)… while importing a key (so that you can't alter