Re: debugging systemd user services for gpg-agent and dirmngr [was: Re: gpg hangs when asking for passphrase]

2017-05-16 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On Mon 2017-05-15 19:10:35 -0400, Joey Morris wrote: > Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote on Wed, May 10, 2017 at > 10:58:21PM -0400: >> On Wed 2017-05-10 22:17:28 -0400, Joey Morris wrote: >> > I have systemd version 222-1 installed, which appears to be wildly out of >> > date. >> > The first thing I'll

Re: debugging systemd user services for gpg-agent and dirmngr [was: Re: gpg hangs when asking for passphrase]

2017-05-15 Thread Joey Morris
Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote on Wed, May 10, 2017 at 10:58:21PM -0400: > On Wed 2017-05-10 22:17:28 -0400, Joey Morris wrote: > > I have systemd version 222-1 installed, which appears to be wildly out of > > date. > > The first thing I'll try when I get back to this is to upgrade systemd. > > yes,

Re: debugging systemd user services for gpg-agent and dirmngr [was: Re: gpg hangs when asking for passphrase]

2017-05-10 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On Wed 2017-05-10 22:17:28 -0400, Joey Morris wrote: > I've been using my .xession setup for a number of years, and actually when > this > issue came up it was the first I'd heard of systemd user services. (I was > aware > of the system-level systemd, just not the user-specific part.) I'll spend

Re: debugging systemd user services for gpg-agent and dirmngr [was: Re: gpg hangs when asking for passphrase]

2017-05-10 Thread Joey Morris
Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote on Wed, May 10, 2017 at 02:10:27PM -0400: > One difference i note is that you're using ~/.xsession, and i'm just > relying on the alternatives system to launch openbox: > > 0 dkg@alice:~$ readlink -f $(which x-session-manager) > /usr/bin/openbox-session > 0

debugging systemd user services for gpg-agent and dirmngr [was: Re: gpg hangs when asking for passphrase]

2017-05-10 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
Hi Joey-- thanks for these details! On Tue 2017-05-09 21:43:47 -0400, Joey Morris wrote: > X11 via startx. I run openbox-session at the end of .xsession. cool, we actually have fairly similar setups -- i'm also running systemd, debian testing/unstable, with dbus-user-session, and libpam-systemd