email verification as casual checking?

2014-08-22 Thread Nicolai Josuttis
Hi, to deal with faked keys, some guys had the idea to use email verification and let then certification servers take that as "casual signing". For example: - Some guy might create a key using a mail client - That key is then automatically sent by the email client to a server, which can be used

Re: email verification as casual checking?

2014-08-22 Thread Robert J. Hansen
> to deal with faked keys, some guys had the idea to use email > verification and let then certification servers take that as "casual > signing". I think the first people to do this were at PGP Security (pre-PGP Corporation; this was when PGP Security was owned by Network Associates). The PGP Glo

Re: email verification as casual checking?

2014-08-22 Thread Doug Barton
On 8/22/14 11:03 AM, Robert J. Hansen wrote: The Global Directory may still be running, for all I know. It is. I have my primary key there if for no other reason than because it gives me an LDAP server to play with. :) Doug ___ Gnupg-users mailin

Re: email verification as casual checking?

2014-08-23 Thread Nicolai Josuttis
Hmm, if I try to use keyserver.pgp.com as enigmail key server it neither accepts public keys I want to upload nor gives responses to searches of emails I know they have. Am I missing something or does this key server only work on a manual copy&paste or upload/download base? My question was about

Re: email verification as casual checking?

2014-08-23 Thread Doug Barton
On 8/23/14 12:12 AM, Nicolai Josuttis wrote: if I try to use keyserver.pgp.com as enigmail key server it neither accepts public keys I want to upload nor gives responses to searches of emails I know they have. Am I missing something or does this key server only work on a manual copy&paste or upl

Re: email verification as casual checking?

2014-08-23 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 08/22/2014 09:13 AM, Nicolai Josuttis wrote: > THAT IS, the key server would automatically certify the correctness > of the association between the key and the email address as casual signing. as others have noted in this thread, this behavior is what the "PGP Global Directory" does. I'm not c

Re: email verification as casual checking?

2014-08-23 Thread Philip Jackson
On 22/08/14 18:13, Nicolai Josuttis wrote: > to deal with faked keys, some guys had the idea to use > email verification and let then certification servers > take that as "casual signing". I take it that a 'faked key' in this context is one associated with an unverified email address. If I send

Re: email verification as casual checking?

2014-08-23 Thread Mathias Bauer
Hi, * Nicolai Josuttis wrote on Fri, 22 Aug 2014, at 18:13 (+0200): > to deal with faked keys, some guys had the idea to use email > verification and let then certification servers take that as > "casual signing". [...] What do you think about this idea? > Was it ever discussed? this has alrea

Re: email verification as casual checking?

2014-08-27 Thread Steve Jones
On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 12:56:11 +0200 Philip Jackson wrote: > - the email address belongs to a person who does control the key and > he may or may not be the person named in the email address. I am > risking my secrets with an unknown person. I had better take care of > the nature of those secrets

Re: email verification as casual checking?

2014-08-28 Thread Philip Jackson
On 28/08/14 00:58, Steve Jones wrote: > On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 12:56:11 +0200 > Philip Jackson wrote: > >> - the email address belongs to a person who does control the key and >> he may or may not be the person named in the email address. I am >> risking my secrets with an unknown person. I had be

Re: email verification as casual checking?

2014-08-28 Thread Steve Jones
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 13:12:30 +0200 Philip Jackson wrote: > Whether or not I want to send secrets to a person depends on lots of > things. I think at present that I would be unlikely to send any > important secret by email. I cannot imagine my confidence levels on > the person's identity or trust