Re: lsign produces exportable signatures when used for self-sigs

2013-09-13 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 09/13/2013 11:35 AM, Nicholas Cole wrote: > Well. Why not trust your circle of contacts (because anyone using this > scheme must be in a small circle) not to upload the keys to > keyservers? > > Perhaps if there is enough demand gpg could even have a "Never send > these keys to keyservers" opti

Re: lsign produces exportable signatures when used for self-sigs

2013-09-13 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 09/13/2013 08:24 AM, Nicholas Cole wrote: > I don't think this is sensible. What is the point of a UID that > cannot be used by someone else? If the UID is shared with anyone else > (even privately), it must have a self-signature, and so that signature > must be exportable. It is possible

Re: lsign produces exportable signatures when used for self-sigs

2013-09-13 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 09/13/2013 09:49 AM, Peter Lebbing wrote: > On 2013-09-13 14:24, Nicholas Cole wrote: >> The correct way would be to have keyservers >> honour the no-modify flag, or perhaps have some notation on the ID >> that prevents uploading to a public keyserver. I myself would favour >> the latter approa

Re: lsign produces exportable signatures when used for self-sigs

2013-09-13 Thread Nicholas Cole
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > On 09/13/2013 09:49 AM, Peter Lebbing wrote: >> On 2013-09-13 14:24, Nicholas Cole wrote: >>> The correct way would be to have keyservers >>> honour the no-modify flag, or perhaps have some notation on the ID >>> that prevents uploading

Re: lsign produces exportable signatures when used for self-sigs

2013-09-13 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 09/13/2013 10:17 AM, David Shaw wrote: > On Sep 13, 2013, at 1:22 AM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor > wrote: > >> GnuPG is currently not able to create a non-exportable self-sig. If you >> try to do this, it gives an error: >> >> WARNING: the signature will not be marked as non-exportable. > > This i

Re: lsign produces exportable signatures when used for self-sigs

2013-09-13 Thread Nicholas Cole
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > On 09/13/2013 08:24 AM, Nicholas Cole wrote: > >> I don't think this is sensible. What is the point of a UID that >> cannot be used by someone else? If the UID is shared with anyone else >> (even privately), it must have a self-signat

Re: lsign produces exportable signatures when used for self-sigs

2013-09-13 Thread David Shaw
On Sep 13, 2013, at 1:22 AM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > GnuPG is currently not able to create a non-exportable self-sig. If you > try to do this, it gives an error: > > WARNING: the signature will not be marked as non-exportable. This is by design (hence the warning message), as an unsigned

Re: lsign produces exportable signatures when used for self-sigs

2013-09-13 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 2013-09-13 14:24, Nicholas Cole wrote: The correct way would be to have keyservers honour the no-modify flag, or perhaps have some notation on the ID that prevents uploading to a public keyserver. I myself would favour the latter approach. The latter has the same problem as the no-modify f

Re: lsign produces exportable signatures when used for self-sigs

2013-09-13 Thread Nicholas Cole
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 12:22 AM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > GnuPG is currently not able to create a non-exportable self-sig. If you > try to do this, it gives an error: > > WARNING: the signature will not be marked as non-exportable. > > But: some people might never want their keys to be pub

lsign produces exportable signatures when used for self-sigs

2013-09-12 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
GnuPG is currently not able to create a non-exportable self-sig. If you try to do this, it gives an error: WARNING: the signature will not be marked as non-exportable. But: some people might never want their keys to be published to the public keyservers, or have some User IDs that they keep lo