Re: Plans for change....

2006-12-17 Thread David Wetzel
> All, > > I've written up a short list of things that I want GNUstep to accomplish > in the year to come: > > As Chief maintainer, it is up to me to determine the > direction of the project. To me, that sounds very reasonable. Themes are very important. Dynamic layout/sizing like Renaissance

Re: Problem with r24204

2006-12-17 Thread Marcus Müller
On 15.12.2006, at 11:53, David Ayers wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marcus Müller schrieb: since upgrading to gnustep-base r24204 I have encountered a serious problem with my app - I get the following backtrace: [...] I've just updated and recompiled everything to r2

Re: Plans for change....

2006-12-17 Thread Yen-Ju Chen
On 12/17/06, David Wetzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All, > > I've written up a short list of things that I want GNUstep to accomplish > in the year to come: > > As Chief maintainer, it is up to me to determine the > direction of the project. To me, that sounds very reasonable. Themes are very

Re: Plans for change....

2006-12-17 Thread David Wetzel
Yen-Ju Chen wrote: > Well, hardcoded position does make localization look better > considering the languages are quite > different in west and east. Wrong, because auto-layout will take care of that. I have seen some Mac Apps that had too big German labels... -- _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetz

Re: Plans for change....

2006-12-17 Thread Yen-Ju Chen
On 12/17/06, David Wetzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yen-Ju Chen wrote: > Well, hardcoded position does make localization look better > considering the languages are quite > different in west and east. Wrong, because auto-layout will take care of that. I have seen some Mac Apps that had too bi

Re: Plans for change....

2006-12-17 Thread David Wetzel
Yen-Ju Chen wrote: > I think this argument falls into the category as the scroll bar > should be on the right or left. > There is no solution to make everyone happy. Maybe you should read [1]. It is very simple. Scrollers are always parts of a scrollview. A theme can change the layout. Thi

Re: Plans for change.... (minor correct of previous post)

2006-12-17 Thread Philippe C.D. Robert
On 16.12.2006, at 23:24, Gregory John Casamento wrote: I now ask these questions: What was the original goal of NeXT with their OS? Should that goal not also be the same for GNUstep? The original goal of OPENSTEP was to create a crossplatform set of libraries which could be easily used. These

Re: Plans for change....

2006-12-17 Thread Yen-Ju Chen
On 12/17/06, David Wetzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yen-Ju Chen wrote: > I think this argument falls into the category as the scroll bar > should be on the right or left. > There is no solution to make everyone happy. Maybe you should read [1]. It is very simple. Scrollers are always par

Art backend and GSReadRect

2006-12-17 Thread Mark Tracy
I'm having a problem with exporting bitmaps with the art backend. (I reported this on the bugtracker, but have not seen a response in a month.) The code that I'm using is: [aView lockFocus]; NSBitmapImageRep * rep = [[NSBitmapImageRep alloc] initWithFocusedViewRect: [aView bounds]]; [

Re: Plans for change.... (minor correct of previous post)

2006-12-17 Thread Henrik Mikael Kristensen
On 17/12/2006, at 23:10, Philippe C.D. Robert wrote: On 16.12.2006, at 23:24, Gregory John Casamento wrote: I now ask these questions: What was the original goal of NeXT with their OS? Should that goal not also be the same for GNUstep? The original goal of OPENSTEP was to create a crossplatf

Re: Plans for change....

2006-12-17 Thread Yen-Ju Chen
This is a news of GTK+ to be ported on Mac natively without X11. http://www.oreillynet.com/mac/blog/2006/12/illuminous_meet_gtk_1.html The interesting part is the comment. I would say the same comment may apply to GNUstep on Windows. If GNUstep doesn't gain popularity on its native platform (Unix,

Re: Plans for change.... (minor correct of previous post)

2006-12-17 Thread Gregory John Casamento
> And NeXT clearly failed with this strategy ;-) To go into all of the reasons why NeXT failed is beyond the scope of this email. But, suffice it to say, it wasn't this strategy that failed them, it was the idea that you could charge $10,000.00 per machine and $5,000 per development seat and be p

Re: Plans for change....

2006-12-17 Thread Gregory John Casamento
Dave, I have a couple of comments on this, which I've been meaning to say for a while. In the past people have expressed the opinion that "dynamic layout isn't possible in Gorm/Nib files" or, at least, that it can't be handled within IB/Gorm. That statement is patently untrue. Gorm contains c

Re: Plans for change.... (minor correct of previous post)

2006-12-17 Thread Gregory John Casamento
Nothing prevents someone from taking GNUstep and creating a complete environment. This has been done in the form of the GNUstep LiveCD. It demonstrates exactly what I'm talking about. All I'm saying is that GNUstep has one and only one goal, and that is to be as good a development environmen

Re: Plans for change....

2006-12-17 Thread Gregory John Casamento
Yen-Ju, > I do know Renaissance. > I use scroll bar as an example only to show > that there is no way to have everyone agree on everything. > If GNUstep decide to adapt auto-layout, > people from Cocoa may start to complain because they use hard-coded position > and their nib file cannot convert t