Re: gnustep-make experiment

2007-02-09 Thread Dennis Leeuw
Just to chime in... I compiled pkg-config from source a couple of times and it does need glib. I haven't been able to work around glib. Dennis Wim Oudshoorn wrote: Matt Rice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: On 2007-02-09 09:18:02 -0800 Wim Oudshoorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So next I tried to

Re: gnustep-make experiment

2007-02-11 Thread Dennis Leeuw
Matt Rice wrote: On 2007-02-10 17:34:59 -0800 Nicola Pero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The only objection i've heard from gnustep.pc is "Its not the way GNUstep stores information". Here is a refresher -- 1. it adds an external dependency upon which *everything* would depend an entirely

Re: gnustep-make experiment

2007-02-11 Thread Dennis Leeuw
Adam Fedor wrote: On Feb 11, 2007, at 3:30 PM, Alex Perez wrote: there are clear advantages... now I can add stuff to configure for things *using* gnustep-make which attempts to see if GNUstep libraries exist. there could be a way to bootstrap gnustep-make to "just work" without any gnust

Re: why do we need change?

2005-10-24 Thread Dennis Leeuw
Actually I think Riccardo has some valid points. I would love to see Cameleon integrated into -core, but marketing wise I think releasing GNUstep 1.0, would do us more good then anything else. With a 1.0 release the exposure we get from all the news sites would be tremendous. So a feature free

Re: why do we need change?

2005-10-25 Thread Dennis Leeuw
wanting to pick up a certain part), then the idea of Adam for a bounty for that subject can be used. In my opinion everything should now be aimed at getting at 1.0. With kind regards, Dennis Leeuw ___ Gnustep-dev mailing list Gnustep-dev@gn

Re: Why Unanimous Consent Doesn't Work (Was: Re: why do we need change?)

2005-10-26 Thread Dennis Leeuw
Sašo Kiselkov wrote: Alright, let's stop arguing (which doesn't lead anywhere) and starting holes in the air, but let's instead start some heavy-weight brain-storming for ideas on how to implement the problems at hand. From the dicussions before we already know that: - GNUstep needs somewhat ti

Re: Why Unanimous Consent Doesn't Work (Was: Re: why do we need change?)

2005-10-26 Thread Dennis Leeuw
Richard Frith-Macdonald wrote: On 2005-10-26 08:49:52 +0100 Dennis Leeuw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sašo Kiselkov wrote: Alright, let's stop arguing (which doesn't lead anywhere) and starting holes in the air, but let's instead start some heavy-weight brain-stormin

Re: The goal of GNUstep 1.0 (Why Unanimous Consent Doesn't Work)

2005-10-26 Thread Dennis Leeuw
Hi Richard, Richard Frith-Macdonald wrote: On 2005-10-26 08:49:52 +0100 Dennis Leeuw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think it is a clear goal. Something we can all agree on, I don't think there isn't anybody who doesn't want GNUstep to become 1.0. We just need a list of th

Re: Gorm 1.0 on GNUstep site

2005-11-02 Thread Dennis Leeuw
Scott Stevenson wrote: On Nov 2, 2005, at 5:13 AM, Stefan Urbanek wrote: Something like here: http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ or here: http://www.openoffice.org/ or here: Advertisment of art.gnome: http://www.gnome.org/ Or like this? :) http://treehouseideas.com/downl

Re: Possible future Gorm name change

2005-11-17 Thread Dennis Leeuw
GNUstep ain't Cocoa/OSX. I don't see a point in mimicking too many of Apple's ideas. What will be next? Use gSomething (gChat) analogous to iSomething (iChat) ??? Wauw... cool! Nice Idea ___ Gnustep-dev mailing list Gnustep-dev@gnu.org http://lis

Re: SystemPreferences

2006-02-24 Thread Dennis Leeuw
Hi Chris, Would this also mean the we need a /System/Library/Inspectors /System/Library/Finder /System/Library/TextConverters /System/Library/GSPrinting just no name a view others that are falling in the same category. Or am I somehow missing the point here? Thanks, Dennis Chris Vetter wr

Re: SystemPreferences

2006-02-25 Thread Dennis Leeuw
miliar with the system) the holy three Applications, Library, Tools should appear everywhere imho. Greetings, Dennis --- Dennis Leeuw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Chris, Would this also mean the we need a /System/Library/Inspectors /System/Library/Finder /System/Library/TextConve

Re: SystemPreferences

2006-02-25 Thread Dennis Leeuw
Chris Vetter wrote: On 2006-02-24 11:07:47 +0100 Dennis Leeuw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Chris, Would this also mean the we need a /System/Library/Inspectors /System/Library/Finder /System/Library/TextConverters /System/Library/GSPrinting just no name a view others that are falli

Re: libgnustep-base split proposal

2006-03-10 Thread Dennis Leeuw
Chris Vetter wrote: On 2006-02-26 03:12:10 +0100 Alex Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hear, Hear! This should be the default location. The other gnustep junk can still live in /usr/gnustep or wherever else, but the libs should be in *STANDARD FHS LOCATIONS*. Uhm ... 'scuse me, this is all

Re: Advertisement for gnustep

2006-09-11 Thread Dennis Leeuw
Adam Fedor wrote: On Sep 9, 2006, at 11:49 PM, Gregory John Casamento wrote: Adam, Is it an ad for new developers or an ad urging end-users to try GNUstep? It's more of an add to get more help, but I think getting more users would provide the same benefit. Maybe the best way to promote t

Re: Advertisement for gnustep

2006-09-12 Thread Dennis Leeuw
Chris Vetter wrote: On 2006-09-12 13:38:40 +0200 Gürkan Sengün <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Indeed, especially if it looks like something I am used to, say NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP, Windows or Mac OS X. Please pretty please, don't make new themes, new looks, another "we are gnome, we are cool", "we are

Re: make help

2006-09-27 Thread Dennis Leeuw
Adrian Robert wrote: On 2006-09-27 23:04:07 -0400 Nicola Pero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This could be an interesting idea, but the main problem is that someone looking for help probably wouldn't know that to get help you need to use 'make help=yes'. Maybe whenever you type 'make' we could al

Re: gnustep release numbers

2006-10-05 Thread Dennis Leeuw
MO: 1) There is an app that needs the additional functionality, so you have to accept to also supply a library upgrade. Nothing more, so no other applications need to be upgraded. 2) No app needs the additional functionality... you do not have to do anything Am I missing a point here? With

Re: Checking breakage of backward compatibility

2006-10-05 Thread Dennis Leeuw
Richard Frith-Macdonald wrote: On 4 Oct 2006, at 12:46, David Ayers wrote: I'm almost indifferent on the subject. But in practice I believe people will unknowingly break binary compatibility and forget to bump the SO name. I think this is worse than forcing folks to recompile apps just beca

Re: gnustep release numbers

2006-10-05 Thread Dennis Leeuw
Yep you are right... hadn't looked at the soname naming. I expected the a soname Major, not Major.Minor. Maybe that should be the real discussion then if this naming convention is still appropriate? Dennis Helge Hess wrote: On Oct 5, 2006, at 16:01, Dennis Leeuw wrote: Currentl

Re: Fwd: Versioning/release policy proposal

2006-10-06 Thread Dennis Leeuw
Hi Richard, A clear document, the only thing I miss is a rationale for the use of the SONAME with a major.minor structure, instead of the more common major. I think this would help in the understanding why, and resulting in less discussion. I could even imagine that you use the SONAME major

Re: GNUSTEP_INSTALLATION_DOMAIN

2006-10-10 Thread Dennis Leeuw
-FHS system, does that mean /usr or /, or /opt? Just my 2 cents. Dennis Leeuw Nicola Pero wrote: I'd like to propose a new option for gnustep-make ... GNUSTEP_INSTALLATION_DOMAIN which could take the values SYSTEM / LOCAL / NETWORK / USER. This option can only be set on the command lin