Re: GNUstep desktop?

2008-01-08 Thread Fred Kiefer
Yavor Doganov wrote: > В Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:44:38 +0100, Fred Kiefer написа: > >> http://www.gnu.org/links/links.html#FreeGNULinuxDistributions > > A asked some time ago about this but nobody replied: > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lib.gnustep.general/29151 > > This specific text was not

Re: GNUstep desktop?

2008-01-08 Thread Yavor Doganov
В Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:44:38 +0100, Fred Kiefer написа: > http://www.gnu.org/links/links.html#FreeGNULinuxDistributions A asked some time ago about this but nobody replied: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lib.gnustep.general/29151 This specific text was not written by RMS, but by one of the G

Re: GNUstep desktop?

2008-01-04 Thread Gregory John Casamento
NUstep Developer Sent: Friday, January 4, 2008 11:44:38 AM Subject: GNUstep desktop? In the LWN issue of December 13th I found a mentioning of GNUstep and a link to the GNU page where RMS recommends the GNUstep live CD: http://www.gnu.org/links/links.html#FreeGNULinuxDistributions It surely i

GNUstep desktop?

2008-01-04 Thread Fred Kiefer
used by RMS may not go well with all GNUstep developers: "GNUstep, a GNU/Linux distribution using the GNUStep desktop. Its initial purpose was to serve as a free implementation of the OpenStep framework." RMS himself is taking great care that everybody else in the world is using the term

Re: The need for an official GNUstep desktop

2006-08-28 Thread Riccardo
Hey, On Monday, August 28, 2006, at 01:43 AM, Pete French wrote: could have an entirely GNUStep system - and as a bonus it would quit when GSWorkspace exitted just like nextStep used to. you can already do that, just configure your x session properly: first launch wmaker as if it weere "xcl

Re: The need for an official GNUstep desktop

2006-08-28 Thread Rogelio M. Serrano Jr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Markus Hitter wrote: > > Am 27.08.2006 um 21:23 schrieb Gregory John Casamento: > >> Up until now we've had 4 or 5 projects playing at being the official >> desktop in an effort to fill the void. > > Yepp. And looking at NeXTbuntu and MidnightBSD, e

Re: The need for an official GNUstep desktop

2006-08-28 Thread Rogelio M. Serrano Jr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pete French wrote: >> WindowMaker and GSWorkspace are good start, but I desktop goes a >> little bit further. > > One of the things which has begun to worry me recently is the fact that > WindowMaker seems to be becomming a bit of a dead end. It's o

Re: The need for an official GNUstep desktop

2006-08-28 Thread Pete French
> WindowMaker and GSWorkspace are good start, but I desktop goes a > little bit further. One of the things which has begun to worry me recently is the fact that WindowMaker seems to be becomming a bit of a dead end. It's our "official" window manager isn't it ? Yet it still doesnt work right in

Re: The need for an official GNUstep desktop

2006-08-28 Thread Andrew Satori
e of the steps we need to take towards doing this is the creation of another project which will be the official GNUstep desktop. Up until now we've had 4 or 5 projects playing at being the official desktop in an effort to fill the void. I believe that all of this is senseless duplic

Re: The need for an official GNUstep desktop

2006-08-28 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 27.08.2006 um 21:23 schrieb Gregory John Casamento: Up until now we've had 4 or 5 projects playing at being the official desktop in an effort to fill the void. Yepp. And looking at NeXTbuntu and MidnightBSD, even full OS releases appear to be in fashion right now. What I do not unders

Re: The need for an official GNUstep desktop

2006-08-28 Thread Günther Noack
Hi! Am 27.08.2006 um 23:56 schrieb Chris Vetter: However, the above has some merit -- why not 'split' GNUstep in two _official_ parts (and I think that is what Greg had in mind) a) GNUstep Core -- the development framework, as it is right now b) GNUstep Desktop -- well, the desk

Re: Re: Re: The need for an official GNUstep desktop

2006-08-27 Thread Yen-Ju Chen
On 8/27/06, Yen-Ju Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Many usable applications are scattering around and most of them are one-man-projects. Below is the list I have in mind. To me, these applications are sufficient to be a nice desktop environment after some polish. I think it will be better to have

Re: Re: The need for an official GNUstep desktop

2006-08-27 Thread Yen-Ju Chen
Many usable applications are scattering around and most of them are one-man-projects. Below is the list I have in mind. To me, these applications are sufficient to be a nice desktop environment after some polish. I think it will be better to have everything in one place and all developers can peek

Re: The need for an official GNUstep desktop

2006-08-27 Thread Chris Vetter
s Greg points out, GNUstep CAN be both, but as Saso indicates, GNUstep is first and foremost a development framework. However, the above has some merit -- why not 'split' GNUstep in two _official_ parts (and I think that is what Greg had in mind) a) GNUstep Core -- the development

Re: The need for an official GNUstep desktop

2006-08-27 Thread Nicolas Roard
"official" desktop be something like GTK+ or Qt are to all DEs built on it - they are foundations of them, but is also usable to build stand-alone apps. I agree. Other reasons are that you'd need to reach an agreement about what exactly this yet-another-gnustep-desktop project would be

Re: The need for an official GNUstep desktop

2006-08-27 Thread Sašo Kiselkov
doing this is the creation of another project which will be the official GNUstep desktop. Up until now we've had 4 or 5 projects playing at being the official desktop in an effort to fill the void. I believe that all of this is senseless duplication and that what we need is a *coordi

The need for an official GNUstep desktop

2006-08-27 Thread Gregory John Casamento
ctive GNUstep desktop environment.   We need to focus on what will make an exciting and easy experience for both users and developers.  Whether it is done in the same repository as GNUstep or in a separate one, that's up for debug.Does anyone have any thoughts or ideas on the above?Thanks, GJ