Re: Savings from Converting to On-Line-Only: 30%- or 70%+ ?

1998-09-25 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Fri, 25 Sep 1998, Keith Seitter wrote: > One thing we deal with in the American Meteorological Society Journals is > that scientists from some countries are prohibited from paying page charges > with government research funds... > > Given this situation, we have always felt that it would be bes

Re: Elsevier Science Policy on Public Web Archiving Needs Re-Thinking

1998-09-25 Thread Stevan Harnad
Arthur Smith's apologia for Elsevier copyright policy can be completely understood (and rejected) as being based on a false opposition: Researchers have a choice between (1) a toll-based refereed literature they can trust, or (2) a toll-free unrefereed literature they cannot trust. The truth is tha

Re: Elsevier Science Policy on Public Web Archiving Needs Re-Thinking

1998-09-25 Thread Albert Henderson
On 24 Sep 1998 Tony Barry wrote: > There is a more fundamental question which relates to the concept of a > "final version". We are so used to the static nature of print that we have > ingrained into us the concept that a publication _should_ be finalised. > Electronic publications increasingly a

Re: Elsevier Science Policy on Public Web Archiving Needs Re-Thinking

1998-09-25 Thread Arthur Smith
On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 Stevan Harnad wrote: >(1) I write a paper. It consists of the following: > > "The ratiometer reading for Clintonite-21 it 4.072." > ... >(3) JoR sends it to referees, who reply "brilliant finding, but >failed to make the Starrken correction: the reading should be 3.972." >

Re: Savings from Converting to On-Line-Only: 30%- or 70%+ ?

1998-09-25 Thread Keith Seitter
I have been following this forum and finding the discussion fascinating. There appear to be several threads under which I could make this comment, but let me do it here. One thing we deal with in the American Meteorological Society Journals is that scientists from some countries are prohibited fro

Re: Restructuring Learned Society Communications

1998-09-25 Thread Patrick Wilken
I would just like to remind people how recent the ejournal phenomenon really is. I have been an editor of the small electronic journal PSYCHE since 1992. When we published our first articles there were less than 20 (<15??) ejournals world-wide, most of which had been started less than 5 years befo

Re: Elsevier Science Policy on Public Web Archiving Needs Re-Thinking

1998-09-25 Thread Patrick Wilken
RE-THINKING >Tony Barry wrote: > >There is a more fundamental question which relates to the concept of a >"final version". We are so used to the static nature of print that we have >ingrained into us the concept that a publication _should_ be finalised. In my own small journal we have a policy of