Conflating Gate-Keeping with Toll-Gating

2001-01-30 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Albert Henderson wrote: James E. Till sees science editors as the main barrier to the circulation of free preprints. He should understand that there is a good reason for editors' successful opposition, one that is not as well recognized by the author as by the scientific

Re: Survey: How many refereed journals can your library NOT afford?

2001-01-30 Thread Sally Morris
Referees are very rarely asked to do this, according to our recent seminar on Peer Review. However, a number of editorial offices go to considerable lengths to check every single one. Apart from anything else, if the links are incorrect/non-existent it will be impossible to create links to the

Re: Conflating Gate-Keeping with Toll-Gating

2001-01-30 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Fytton Rowland wrote: While I lean toward's Stevan Harnad's view of the world rather than Albert Henderson's in general, I think it is worth pointing out that scholarly journal editors are not *just* gatekeepers. They don't just certify papers as acceptable. They also

Re: Information Exchange Groups (IEGs)

2001-01-30 Thread Jim Till
On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Stevan Harnad wrote (on the subject: Re: Conflating Gate-Keeping with Toll-Gating): On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Albert Henderson wrote: James E. Till sees science editors as the main barrier to the circulation of free preprints. He should understand that there is a good

Re: Information Exchange Groups (IEGs)

2001-01-30 Thread Greg Kuperberg
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 06:42:26PM -0500, Albert Henderson wrote: It is not surprising that administrators perceive science editors as motivated by selfish or commercial interests. As if reading a Rorschach inkblot, they reveal their own miserable outlook. Here is the chain of command above

Re: Conflating Gate-Keeping with Toll-Gating

2001-01-30 Thread Steve Hitchcock
At 12:48 30/01/01 +, Fytton Rowland wrote: Academic editors, assisted by their paid editorial assistants, create in many cases a piece of work that provides a better impression of the authors than they had provided for themselves. I have argued before -- mainly in my chapter in the 1996

Re: ALPSP Research study on academic journal authors

2001-01-30 Thread Jim Till
On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Sally Morris wrote: I have been asked whether the acceptance/rejection figures varied significantly by subject area, so I have delved deeper into the figures to analyse this. The provisional results are interesting (bear in mind, though, that the samples for some

Re: ALPSP Research study on academic journal authors

2001-01-30 Thread Jim Till
On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Jim Till wrote: On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Sally Morris wrote: I have been asked whether the acceptance/rejection figures varied significantly by subject area, so I have delved deeper into the figures to analyse this. The provisional results are interesting (bear in mind,

Re: Recent Comments by Albert Henderson

2001-01-30 Thread Greg Kuperberg
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 06:42:35PM -0500, Albert Henderson wrote: Moreover, and my point: if the fourfold increase in journal articles since 1970 is not worth our attention, then don't the unreviewed postings on free preprint servers risk a real waste of time for any reader who values his/her