Re: Call for Commentary: http://www.text-e.org/debats/

2001-11-19 Thread Stevan Harnad
Nov 15 - 30 is the Virtual Symposium is focussing on a paper by me. All interested commentators are invited to contribute (in any of three languages!) http://www.text-e.org/debats/ Skyreading and Skywriting for Researchers: A Post-Gutenberg Anomaly and How to Resolve it Stevan Harnad

Re: Copyright: Form, Content, and Prepublication Incarnations

2001-11-19 Thread Bernard Lang
On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 02:52:35PM +, Stevan Harnad wrote: > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Chris Armstrong wrote: > > > the reason I do not usually enter into these discussions > > with you is that you never reply except as a put-down... > > You rarely add to a Socratic discourse, or so it seems to > >

Re: Copyright: Form, Content, and Prepublication Incarnations

2001-11-19 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Chris Armstrong wrote: > the reason I do not usually enter into these discussions > with you is that you never reply except as a put-down... > You rarely add to a Socratic discourse, or so it seems to > me; only to a long list of didactic statements. Dear Chris, I apologize.

Re: More thoughts on subversion

2001-11-19 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Chris Armstrong wrote: > More thoughts on subversion > > Chris Armstrong > > there is clearly an anomaly surrounding journal charging > that publishers, libraries and, to a lesser extent, authors have to > face and address. The anomaly, in my view, is that journals are charg

Re: Copyright: Form, Content, and Prepublication Incarnations

2001-11-19 Thread Chris Armstrong
Stevan the reason I do not usually enter into these discussions with you is that you never reply except as a put-down: you obviously haven't understood... this has already been discussed... etc. You rarely add to a Socratic discourse, or so it seems to me; only to a long list of didactic statement

Re: Central vs. Distributed Archives

2001-11-19 Thread Eberhard R. Hilf
dear Stevan, thanks a lot for your somehwat summary of the topic up to now. I agree with what you say. All paths leading to the same destination. Indeed, we work on all three lines: encourage the authors, the institutions to set up selfarchiving with our help or gate or not and promote central arch

Re: Copyright: Form, Content, and Prepublication Incarnations

2001-11-19 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Chris Armstrong wrote: > If the subversive proposal takes hold, > journal prices will be forced up - in the short term, at > least. In the long term, IF it worries them, the > publishers can lobby for litigation outside of the > copyright laws, I suppose. Perhaps something to

Re: Copyright: Form, Content, and Prepublication Incarnations

2001-11-19 Thread Chris Armstrong
A late comment on Charles Oppenheim's 16/11 email: >I agree with Professor Riolo - the best way forward is >for authors to refuse to assign copyright to a >publisher, and simply to license them. > >...This means that the genie IS out of the bottle ... Well yes - but, hasn't it really been out of