Drubbing Peter to Pay Paul

2004-11-12 Thread Stevan Harnad
See also: http://education.guardian.co.uk/higherfeedback/story/0,11056,1364556,00.html http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/306/5705/2187b http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/eletters/329/7475/1122-a#85624 On Thu, 11 Nov 2004, alison.macdon...@britishlibrary.net wrote: I thought readers of

Wall Street Journal Article on UK Open Access Proposal

2004-11-12 Thread Stevan Harnad
On 11/8/04 Ben Winkley, in UK Govt Unconvinced On Open Access To Science Research http://online.wsj.com/search#BT_CO_20041108_002913 wrote: The U.K. government said Monday it isn't convinced by a proposal to allow open access to scientific research on the Internet... Under the

Re: Drubbing Peter to Pay Paul

2004-11-12 Thread Steve Hitchcock
Stevan says that the government response to the select committee was based on a misunderstanding, will be rectified and therefore, in effect, changes nothing. This raises the question, why were Ian Gibson and the select cttee so angry with the response? I can't second-guess the politics of

Re: Self-Archiving vs. Self-Publishing FAQ

2004-11-12 Thread Rick Anderson
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Re: Self-Archiving vs. Self-Publishing FAQ

2004-11-12 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004, Rick Anderson wrote: Stevan Harnad wrote: The only major recommendation of the UK Select Committee was to mandate OA self-archiving. Yet no one (MPs, press, publishers or librarians) can stop going on and on about OA publishing, which was *not* what was being

Re: Drubbing Peter to Pay Paul

2004-11-12 Thread C.Oppenheim
I was not surprised by the UK Government's response. I was always sceptical about the Select C'tee's report's likely impact. Governments have a long and dishonourable history of ignoring Select Committees! Looking at it from a Government point of view, why on earth should it get interested in a

Re: Drubbing Peter to Pay Paul

2004-11-12 Thread David Goodman
Charles Oppenheim wrote: [W]hat annoys me is that the Government conflates OA journals with OA repositories and I do think it needs educating on that matter. It would have been so much better if the Gov't had encouraged Universities and the like to set repositories up and encouraged funding

Re: Drubbing Peter to Pay Paul

2004-11-12 Thread Stevan Harnad
See also: http://education.guardian.co.uk/higherfeedback/story/0,11056,1364556,00.html http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/306/5705/2187b http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/eletters/329/7475/1122-a#85624 On Fri, 12 Nov 2004, David Goodman wrote: Charles Oppenheim wrote: [W]hat annoys

Re: Self-Archiving vs. Self-Publishing FAQ

2004-11-12 Thread Heather Morrison
For those who are newer to OA, here is a simpler explanation of what Stevan Harnad has already said in more detail: Distribution is not the same as publication. The academic publishing process involves careful selection of articles, which are then reviewed by expert peer reviewers and

DECLARATION of the International Conference Information as Libraries

2004-11-12 Thread Donat Agosti
Another little step ahead... International conference: Information as Public Domain: Access through Libraries http://www.nlr.ru:8101/tus/271004/index_e.html http://www.nlr.ru:8101/tus/271004/index.html International conference Information as Public Domain: Access through Libraries Russian