Don't Just Advocate Keystrokes: Advocate Keystroke Mandates

2007-11-27 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Talat Chaudhri [tac] wrote: > To be clear, we will seek a university mandate in Aberystwyth, but > expect that compliance will only follow if backed up by adequate and > ongoing advocacy. I have also seen this morning a report of only 4% of > mandates succeeding, so I feel tha

Re: OA in Europe suffers a setback

2007-11-27 Thread c.oppenh...@lboro.ac.uk
I think there is also a role for individual Universities' research offices to draw attention to their faculty of requirements imposed by funding agencies. Charles Professor Charles Oppenheim Head Department of Information Science Loughborough University Loughborough Leics LE11 3TU Tel 01509-22

FW: CRIS 2008 - Prolongation of deadline

2007-11-27 Thread Jeffery, KG (Keith)
Stevan - Maybe some on the list would be interested? Research information systems and repositories are geing closer all the time! K >-- >Prof Keith G Jeffery E: k...@rl.ac.uk >Director Information Technology & International Strategy >Scie

Re: OA in Europe suffers a setback

2007-11-27 Thread Ept
All, I sent over 60 messages to MEPs on behalf of the EPT Trustees, on April 9th, so there may have been other letters written too. If so, this suggests either that the message is not understood or that we just have to write and write and write, as some well known OA warriors are doing so determind

Re: OA in Europe suffers a setback

2007-11-27 Thread Talat Chaudhri [tac]
Hi, To be clear, we will seek a university mandate in Aberystwyth, but expect that compliance will only follow if backed up by adequate and ongoing advocacy. I have also seen this morning a report of only 4% of mandates succeeding, so I feel that I am receiving rather mixed messages on this. I am

Re: OA in Europe suffers a setback

2007-11-27 Thread c.oppenh...@lboro.ac.uk
Just as a funder can REQUIRE as a condition of funding that the recipient of its money writes a report, it can require that the peer-reviewed outputs be made OA. If the recipient fails to do this, he/she will never receive further funding from that agency. That sort of thing would NOT be viewed

Re: OA in Europe suffers a setback

2007-11-27 Thread FrederickFriend
I agree that an opportunity was lost on 13 September. I am sure more members of this list would have contacted their MEP if they had known that the Communication was on the Research Committee's agenda. But I think there will be other opportunities to make MEPs aware of the importance of this matter

Re: OA in Europe suffers a setback

2007-11-27 Thread Stevan Harnad
> > > N. MIRADON [regarding the tepid European Parliament statement on OA] > > > > > > Thus are battles lost [owing to lack of sufficient OA lobbying] > > > > T. KRICHEL: > > > > How come? Academics have to make their work openly > > accessible to make open access work. Waiting for > > T. CHA

Re: OA in Europe suffers a setback

2007-11-27 Thread Talat Chaudhri [tac]
Absolutely right. Mandates are all very well, whether within universities or nationally, but they are worthless unless they are complied with. Penalties for non-compliance are effectively impossible. I heard someone at UKCoRR compare the situation to speeding fines lately. Do these stop people from

Re: OA in Europe suffers a setback

2007-11-27 Thread Thomas Krichel
N. Miradon writes > Thus are battles lost. How come? Academics have to make their work openly accessible to make open access work. Waiting for bureaucrats to act first is just wasting time. Cheers, Thomas Krichelhttp://openlib.org/home/krichel

OA in Europe suffers a setback

2007-11-27 Thread N . Miradon
In February 2007 the European Commission, reacting to pressure, published a document (COM(2007)0056) "Communication on Scientific Information in the Digital Age: Access, Dissemination and Preservation"; links at [1]. The Commission sent Communication COM(2007)0056 to the European Council and to the