RE: [AMERICAN-SCIENTIST-OPEN-ACCESS-FORUM] Repositories: Institutional or Central ? [in French, from Rector's blog, U. Li�ge]

2009-02-06 Thread Arthur Sale
Let me make a clear distinction between ~U Subject-based repositories, and ~U Multi-disciplinary repositories. The rhetoric about institutional repositories arises because (a) they are multi-disciplinary, and (b) because the owning institutions are empowered to mandate deposit. No

Re: [AMERICAN-SCIENTIST-OPEN-ACCESS-FORUM] Repositories: Institutional or Central ? [in French, from Rector's blog, U. Li�ge]

2009-02-06 Thread Leslie Carr
On 6 Feb 2009, at 00:02, Thomas Krichel wrote: Arthur Sale writes I totally disagree that researchers should be free to deposit where they will. This one of the basic tennants of academic fredom. Academic freedom relates to a professor's freedom to choose to profess (ie teach and

RE: [AMERICAN-SCIENTIST-OPEN-ACCESS-FORUM] Fwd: Repositories: Institutional or Central ? [in French, from Rector's blog, U. Li�ge]

2009-02-06 Thread Arthur Sale
Klaus   1.  Almost all research intensive universities in the world now have repositories. I am sorry if yours doesn't. The remaining non-research oriented universities will follow suit if it suits them, and there are at most 10,000 of them. 2.  I accept there are a few thousand scholars with

RE: [AMERICAN-SCIENTIST-OPEN-ACCESS-FORUM] [AMERICAN-SCIENTIST-OPEN-ACCESS-FORUM] Repositories: Institutional or Central ? [in French, from Rector's blog, U. Li�

2009-02-06 Thread Arthur Sale
What a load of rubbish. If we follow that line, academics would be free not to publish their research, not to participate in evaluations, not to set and mark examination papers, not to deliver lectures, etc.   This is a total misconstruction of academic freedom. What 'academic freedom' means is

Fwd: Repositories: Institutional or Central ? - further questions from NERC.

2009-02-06 Thread Stevan Harnad
On 6-Feb-09, at 6:59 AM, Gerry Lawson (RCUK,Secretariat) wrote (in JISC-REPOSITORIES): Stevan, a very useful series of postings - thanks. UK Research Councils have a variety of OA mandates - including two which mandate deposition in CRs (MRC- UK PubMed and ESRC - Society

Re: Repositories: Institutional or Central ? emergent properties and the compulsory open society

2009-02-06 Thread Tomasz Neugebauer
Research repositories, whether they are a physical library, an electronic journal archive, an institutional repository or a subject repository, are collections of interconnected components. Understood in this way, as systems, they have emergent properties. That is, properties of the

Re: Repositories: Institutional or Central ? emergent properties and the compulsory open society

2009-02-06 Thread Bernard Rentier
I believe we are getting carried away here. My point was much simpler... 1. Universities may legitimately own a repository of all the publications by their employees, no matter what their statutes can be, they may also impose a mandate and simply enforce it by making it conditional for futher

Yet Another Case of Green/Gold Deuteranopia

2009-02-06 Thread Stevan Harnad
Yet Another Case of Green/Gold Deuteranopia Andrew Brown, wrote in the Guardian (5 Feb): [O]pen access is unsatisfactory [because] open-access journals [are] not yet widespread enough... The only answer I can think of is to bring electronic subscriptions into the