[GOAL] Re: Tireless Ad Hoc Critiques of OA Study After OA Study: Will Wishful Thinking Ever Cease?

2012-03-23 Thread Andrew A . Adams
I wrote: > > You are putting the cart before the horse here. A decision to cite > > depends (when the researcher is doing their job properly) on being > > able to read. Only after an article has been read can the decision > > to cite or not come into it. Jan replied: > Of course, quite right: you

[GOAL] Re: Tireless Ad Hoc Critiques of OA Study After OA Study: Will Wishful Thinking Ever Cease?

2012-03-23 Thread Andrew A. Adams
I wrote: > > You are putting the cart before the horse here. A decision to cite > > depends (when the researcher is doing their job properly) on being > > able to read. Only after an article has been read can the decision > > to cite or not come into it. Jan replied: > Of course, quite right: you

[GOAL] Re: Tireless Ad Hoc Critiques of OA Study After OA Study: Will Wishful Thinking Ever Cease?

2012-03-23 Thread Andrew A . Adams
> Is it really common sense? You write: "Not only is OA research > downloaded and cited more -- as common sense would expect, as a result > of making it accessible free for all, rather than just for those whose > institutions can afford a subscription". > > First, downloaded more - I can agree.

[GOAL] Re: Tireless Ad Hoc Critiques of OA Study After OA Study: Will Wishful Thinking Ever Cease?

2012-03-23 Thread Andrew A. Adams
> Is it really common sense? You write: "Not only is OA research > downloaded and cited more -- as common sense would expect, as a result > of making it accessible free for all, rather than just for those whose > institutions can afford a subscription". > > First, downloaded more - I can agree.

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2012-03-23 Thread Nancy Pontika
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[GOAL] Re: Tireless Ad Hoc Critiques of OA Study After OA Study: Will Wishful Thinking Ever Cease?

2012-03-23 Thread J . W . Schoones
Dear Ross, Andrew, and Stevan, Thanks for your input - some of which I would like to comment on. Dear Ross, > Thus easily accessible articles have a clear advantage. Of course, easily accessible articles have a clear advantage. Open Access articles are a sub-set of easily accessible articles,

[GOAL] Re: Tireless Ad Hoc Critiques of OA Study After OA Study: Will Wishful Thinking Ever Cease?

2012-03-23 Thread j.w.schoo...@lumc.nl
Dear Ross, Andrew, and Stevan, Thanks for your input - some of which I would like to comment on. Dear Ross, > Thus easily accessible articles have a clear advantage. Of course, easily accessible articles have a clear advantage. Open Access articles are a sub-set of easily accessible articles,

[GOAL] Re: Tireless Ad Hoc Critiques of OA Study After OA Study: Will Wishful Thinking Ever Cease?

2012-03-23 Thread keith . jeffery
Stevan, all - Of course I agree with the points already made about downloads and citation based on open easy availability. I wanted to pick up on Stevan's point about very persuasive motto: "public access to publicly funded research" This is not restricted to health research but also environme

[GOAL] Re: Tireless Ad Hoc Critiques of OA Study After OA Study: Will Wishful Thinking Ever Cease?

2012-03-23 Thread keith.jeff...@stfc.ac.uk
Stevan, all - Of course I agree with the points already made about downloads and citation based on open easy availability. I wanted to pick up on Stevan's point about very persuasive motto: "public access to publicly funded research" This is not restricted to health research but also environme

[GOAL] Re: Tireless Ad Hoc Critiques of OA Study After OA Study: Will Wishful Thinking Ever Cease?

2012-03-23 Thread Ross Mounce
Dear Jan, > the citations to articles will not be hampered by accessibility. You're kidding me right? It's quite common to have points in a manuscript that need to be supported by several references (X 2001; Y 2002; Z 2003). In these instances, in my experience researchers use the most famous ex

[GOAL] Re: Tireless Ad Hoc Critiques of OA Study After OA Study: Will Wishful Thinking Ever Cease?

2012-03-23 Thread Ross Mounce
Dear Jan, > the citations to articles will not be hampered by accessibility. You're kidding me right? It's quite common to have points in a manuscript that need to be supported by several references (X 2001; Y 2002; Z 2003). In these instances, in my experience researchers use the most famous ex

[GOAL] Re: Tireless Ad Hoc Critiques of OA Study After OA Study: Will Wishful Thinking Ever Cease?

2012-03-23 Thread J . W . Schoones
Dear Stevan, Is it really common sense? You write: "Not only is OA research downloaded and cited more -- as common sense would expect, as a result of making it accessible free for all, rather than just for those whose institutions can afford a subscription". First, downloaded more - I can agre

[GOAL] Re: Tireless Ad Hoc Critiques of OA Study After OA Study: Will Wishful Thinking Ever Cease?

2012-03-23 Thread j.w.schoo...@lumc.nl
Dear Stevan, Is it really common sense? You write: "Not only is OA research downloaded and cited more -- as common sense would expect, as a result of making it accessible free for all, rather than just for those whose institutions can afford a subscription". First, downloaded more - I can agre

[GOAL] Re: Tireless Ad Hoc Critiques of OA Study After OA Study: Will Wishful Thinking Ever Cease?

2012-03-23 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Jan W. Schoones, Walaeus Library, The Netherlands, wrote: > You write: "Not only is OA research downloaded and cited more -- as common > sense would expect, as a result of making it accessible free for all, rather > than just for those whose institutions can af

[GOAL] Re: Tireless Ad Hoc Critiques of OA Study After OA Study: Will Wishful Thinking Ever Cease?

2012-03-23 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Jan W. Schoones, Walaeus Library, The Netherlands, wrote: > You write: "Not only is OA research downloaded and cited more -- as common > sense would expect, as a result of making it accessible free for all, rather > than just for those whose institutions can af