[GOAL] Re: Public awareness of the OA movement

2012-08-23 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Subbiah Arunachalam wrote: Please see the Economist debate on academic journals [ > http://www.economist.com/economist-asks/do-fee-charging-academic-journals-offer-value-added-0?sort=2#sort-comments > . > It has not attracted many comments from readers - a clear in

[GOAL] Re: Clarification of the new OA policy from the RCUK

2012-08-23 Thread Andrew A. Adams
> I think the new OA Policy of the RCUK is a pragmatic one and could be > a role model for others outside the UK because it reflects and > supports the vital development on the Gold OA publication market > (beyond PLoS and BMC think of PeerJ, IZA journals, Forum of > Mathematics, eLife, OAPEN, SCOA

[GOAL] Fw: [oadl] Public awareness of the OA movement

2012-08-23 Thread Subbiah Arunachalam
Friends: Please see the Economist debate on academic journals [ http://www.economist.com/economist-asks/do-fee-charging-academic-journals-offer-value-added-0?sort=2#sort-comments . It has not attracted many comments from readers - a clear indication that the general public (at least the segment

[GOAL] Re: [BOAI] Re: Re: Clarification of the new OA policy from the RCUK

2012-08-23 Thread Couture Marc
I think there is a real danger here in this new approach taken by RCUK, and that it concerns the whole scientific community. I sense that commercial publishers have now found, or been given, a way to justify their existence (not to mention their huge profit margins). In light of the plausible g

[GOAL] Re: [BOAI] Re: Re: Clarification of the new OA policy from the RCUK

2012-08-23 Thread Eloy Rodrigues
In my opinion, on the contrary, the RCUK policy is not a good one, precisely because it puts the interests of the "Gold OA publication market", and even the "publication market" tout court, in front of the interests of research and researchers. Journals are just instrumental in research, they are

[GOAL] Re: Clarification of the new OA policy from the RCUK

2012-08-23 Thread Reckling, Falk, Dr.
I think the new OA Policy of the RCUK is a pragmatic one and could be a role model for others outside the UK because it reflects and supports the vital development on the Gold OA publication market (beyond PLoS and BMC think of PeerJ, IZA journals, Forum of Mathematics, eLife, OAPEN, SCOAP3, eEc

[GOAL] Re: Clarification of the new OA policy from the RCUK

2012-08-23 Thread Stevan Harnad
Mark Thorley's response is very disappointing: -- MT: "the ‘corrections’ [Harnad] proposes would dilute our policy so that it was no longer able to deliver the level of open access which the Research Councils require." http://blogs.rcuk.ac.uk/2012/08/10/the-benefits-of-open-access/#comment-81 The

[GOAL] Re: {Disarmed} Clarification of the new OA policy from the RCUK

2012-08-23 Thread Tim Brody
I find the idea of a funder ring-fencing money for publishers strange. Requiring open access (public access to publicly funded research) is obviously a policy question but is the cost-recovery model of publishers really an appropriate area for funders to be concerned with? Besides, why does the hy

[GOAL] Re: {Disarmed} Clarification of the new OA policy from the RCUK

2012-08-23 Thread Hamaker, Charles
One continuing concern is that blended journals, i.e. gold OA for some articles only, are not very efficient means of making OA articles visible. We have no standard means of noting at the journal level or in abstracting and indexing services or services such as google scholar which articles i