[GOAL] Re: [Open-access] Re: Re: Fight Publishing Lobby's Latest FIRST Act to Delay OA - Nth Successor to PRISM, RWA etc.

2013-11-22 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 1:07 AM, Arthur Sale a...@ozemail.com.au wrote: *S.H.*: Can we wait, please, until [mandates] at least cover (journal article) text, rather than demanding even more when we don't yet even have less? *A.S.*: There is no need to wait… Open access data is within our

[GOAL] Re: [Open-access] Re: Re: Fight Publishing Lobby's Latest FIRST Act to Delay OA - Nth Successor to PRISM, RWA etc.

2013-11-22 Thread Bjoern Brembs
On Friday, November 22, 2013, 12:25:42 AM, you wrote: I find subscriptions too expensive compared to other solutions Institutional users need access to subscription journals today. Whatever the solution, if the content is not OA, it means paying tolls. The toll budget for journal access is

[GOAL] Hélène Bosc: History and status report on Green OA (in French)

2013-11-22 Thread Stevan Harnad
Very well-informed summary (in French) by France's first and foremost OA Advocate, Hélène Bosc. 2013/11/22 Hélène.Bosc hbosc-tcher...@orange.fr Le PPT de la présentation que j'ai faite sur l'historique et l'état des lieux de la Voie Verte à l'ESPCI à Paris le 7 novembre, au cours du

[GOAL] Re: [Open-access] Re: Re: Fight Publishing Lobby's Latest FIRST Act to Delay OA - Nth Successor to PRISM, RWA etc.

2013-11-22 Thread Arthur Sale
Stevan I am glad we agree that both activities can and should proceed in parallel. All we disagree on is a judgment as to whether mandates for open data or open articles will be first. I continue to assert that achievement of 100% mandated open data is much nearer in time than 100% open