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From: "Jerome McDonough"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 4:18 AM
Subject: Re: Economic effects of link-based search engines on
e-journals
> At 05:10 PM 10/1/00 +0100, Stevan Harnad wrote:
> >Eric is a technical expert here and I am not. So there may be something
- Original Message -
From: "Stevan Harnad"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 5:11 AM
Subject: Auto-Archiving Conference Proceedings
> On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Ken Rouse wrote:
>
> > Various contributors to this forum
> > have commented on the resistance of scientists in some fields
(che
- Original Message -
From: "Stevan Harnad"
To:
Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2000 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: question about other forums
> On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, ransdell, joseph m. wrote:
>
>
> They are relevant enough to be mentioned in this Forum, and they have
> been mentioned. Now I will
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From: "Fytton Rowland"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: Etymology of "Eprint"
.
>
> But in the USA thirty or so years ago an effort was made to
organise a
> preprint exchange, which really did distribute paper (photo)copies of
> as-yet
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From: "David Goodman"
>
> We should also remember that in addition to "all the amateur stuff
> unleashed on the web with all the best intentions" there is also quite a
> bit of similar stuff in the refereed journal literature. For example,
> polywater, cold fusion and
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From: "Stevan Harnad"
To:
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 4:32 PM
Subject: WHO WILL PAY FOR WHAT?
> On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Marvin wrote:
>
> > Max Frankel..NY Times Magazine (Sunday, July 9):
> >
> > "when will you get
", we need some
realistic discussion on who will pay for free-to-the-reader scholarly
publication. I didn't hear it at the meeting, and I haven't seen much on
this forum.
Marvin Margoshes
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From: Stevan Harnad
To:
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: Legal ways around copyright for one's own giveaway texts
> Alan Story is a friendly critic, so I will reply on the assumption that
> we are both looking for a favorable outcome: something tha
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From: Stevan Harnad
To:
Sent: Tuesday, February 29, 2000 5:47 AM
Subject: Re: Medical journals are dead. Long live medical journals
> On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, Albert Henderson wrote:
>
> > There are many differences between bioscience and
> > physics. The most important
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From: Jim Till
To:
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: Medical journals are dead. Long live medical journals
> My thanks to my colleague Peter Singer for his provocative article in
> CMAJ, and for pointing me toward this forum.
>
> It's still far fr
- Original Message -
From: Stevan Harnad
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 7:07 AM
Subject: Re: Legal ways around copyright for one's own giveaway texts
> On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, Marvin Margoshes wrote:
>
> >sh> Could we hear some informed legal opinion about
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From: Stevan Harnad
> > > From: Charles Oppenheim
> > >
> > > 1 author posts unrefereed preprint on web site
> > >
> > > 2 author submits same at a later date (maybe five minutes later!) to
> > > a refereed journal
> > >
> > > 3 if/when accepted, author mak
> -- Forwarded message --
> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 18:18:43 +
> From: Charles Oppenheim
> To: Stevan Harnad , kam.pa...@thes.co.uk
> Subject: Re: legal ways around copyright of one's own giveaway texts
>
> There is no disagreement. I support Stevan's view that by doing the
> fo
I don't want my suggestion to be interpreted as impugning anyone's
character, but I do have a problem with the way the job has been done. The
Moderator and I don't see eye-to-eye, which is OK by me. However, whenever
I have posted, he has immediately posted his (usually strong) response,
which ma
What's in a name?, etc.
If we are to talk about changes, I suggest a change in Moderator to someone
with a more neutral position on the topic; someone who will allow time for
the rest of us to offer our views before taking a strong stance himself.
That would be in line with the traditional rol
I've pointed out before in this forum that universities will surely claim
ownership of copyright to online scholarly publications when substantial
amounts of income come into view. The New York Times had an article in the
Sunday, Feb. 13 Week in Review Section with the headline "Boola, Boola:
E-C
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From: Stevan Harnad
To:
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: Self-Archiving vs. Self-Publishing FAQ
>
> I think unrefereed papers and discussion on the Internet fall in
> exactly the same category as the above: Good for establishing priority
> and
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From: Harry Whitaker
To:
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: BioMed Central and new publishing models
> At 04:42 PM 1/24/00 -, you wrote:
> >[from John Peel]
> >How will we cover our costs? Honestly, we're not entirely sure yet.
> >... and experi
entist-open-access-fo...@listserver.sigmaxi.org]De la part
de Marvin
Envoyé : lundi 24 janvier 2000 15:56
À : american-scientist-open-access-fo...@listserver.sigmaxi.org
Objet : Re: BioMed Central and new publishing models
There are glaring questions about this proposal.
The notice mentions the NIH sy
There are glaring questions about this proposal.
The notice mentions the NIH system, but doesn't say whether it is part of it
or a competitor.
The notice speaks of peer review. Who will do the reviews, and by what
standards?
I could certainly find more to question, but I'll wait to hear the ans
- Original Message -
From: Ransdell, Joseph M.
To:
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 1999 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: The True Cost of the Essentials (Implementing Peer Review)
> (8) ADVICE TO AUTHORS: If there is a possibility of making
> significant money from the sale of your paper, don'
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From: Prof. Tom Wilson
To:
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 1999 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: The True Cost of the Essentials (Implementing Peer Review)
> I totally agree with the last point - but I wonder if high
> submission, high cost journals are the norm? I referee regular
- Original Message -
From: Ian Ross
To:
Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 5:16 AM
Subject: Re: Open Archiving: What are researchers willing to do?
> The trouble is, as you point out, it's a very tenuous distinction. I
would
> love to know how they would view a paper which was archived (p
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From: Steve Hitchcock
To:
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 6:55 AM
Subject: Re: Open Archiving: What are researchers willing to do?
> At 10:18 AM 11/18/99 -0600, sterling stoudenmire wrote:
> >it seems to me any law which seeks to prohibit or gatekeep publication o
> At 09:59 AM 11/16/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >- Original Message -
> >From: Thomas J. Walker
> >To:
> >Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 8:46 AM
> >Subject: What are researchers willing to do?
> >
> >
> >> To find out what those attending my two most recent talks were willing
to
> >> do to p
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From: Stevan Harnad
To:
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: Open Archiving: What are researchers willing to do?
> On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Marvin Margoshes wrote:
>
> tw> From: Thomas J. Walker
> tw> To find out what those att
- Original Message -
From: Thomas J. Walker
To:
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 8:46 AM
Subject: What are researchers willing to do?
> Researchers should be highly motivated to make their refereed articles
> freely accessible on the Web. Thus far, however, their interest and
> actions
t will become the default and
the print format will be backup.
Marvin Margoshes
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From: Stevan Harnad
To: september-fo...@amsci-forum.amsci.org
List-Post: goal@eprints.org
List-Post: goal@eprints.org
Date: Saturday, May 08, 1999 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: 2.0K vs. 0.2K
>The minor differences have to do with a way of thinking that Arthur
>repeatedly laps
-Original Message-
From: Stevan Harnad
To: september-fo...@amsci-forum.amsci.org
List-Post: goal@eprints.org
List-Post: goal@eprints.org
Date: Monday, May 03, 1999 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: Scholar's Forum: A New Model For Scholarly Communication
>My comrade-in-arms, Paul Ginsparg, is quite
iment and learn what
does and does not work.
Marvin Margoshes
-Original Message-
From: Bruce Edmonds
To: september-fo...@amsci-forum.amsci.org
List-Post: goal@eprints.org
List-Post: goal@eprints.org
Date: Saturday, March 27, 1999 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: Independent scientific publication - Why have journals at all?
>A key difference between Stephen's
rofit publishers (i.e, professional societies) is to bundle the
online version with the print subscription; when the print
subscriptions is included in the membership dues, the online version is
made free to members, perhaps with a small increase in dues to cover
costs.
Marvin Margoshes
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most important players in scholarly
publishing weren't well represented. I mean the authors and readers, not
the editors, publishers, and librarians.
Marvin Margoshes
blishers? Until there are answers to questions like this, the suggestion
of a subsidy is pie-in-the-sky.
Marvin Margoshes
[Moderator's note: Reasonable questions. This is why the transition
needs advance planning. See the "Urgent Need to Plan a Stable
Transition" thr
There is an abbreviated version of the Library Journal's news item on
this subject at
http://www.bookwire.com/ljdigital.article$10613.
Marvin Margoshes
[Moderator's Note: This URL often has access problems; it did not
work on the two days I tested it, but this contr
not take a
position.
I do think the question of unintended consequences is being ignored by those
who advocate a revolution in how scholarly information is disseminated,
rather than an evolution over a few years. The colloquial phrase is
"throwing out the baby with the bath water".
Marvin Margoshes
[Caveat Emptor! The following notice is about the Trojan Horse that
S/SL/PPV has offered in order to preserve the status quo. It has been
discussed in many of the contributions to this forum as the "hybrid"
solution. S.H.]
Marvin Margoshes :
There is a news item on p. 14 of th
e a
process to be done by amateurs. Later, I became Editor of "Spectrochimica
Acta B: Atomic Spectroscopy", and that journal was started by two scientists
at the Vatican Astrophysical Observatory. It doesn't take a big
organization to get something started. In fact, organizations often resist
doing anything truly new.
Marvin Margoshes
by an officer of the company I
worked for; my signature would not have been enough because I did not
own the copyright.
I don't see this aspect of copyright ownership being mentioned in the
Science article or the editorial. Any comments from those in academia?
Marvin Margoshes
t;hot" areas that the editor wants to include in the scope
of the journal.
Marvin Margoshes
ut plans to
charge a fee in 1999, and I realized that my 90 MHz Pentium computer and
33.6 Kbaud modem aren't fast enough. It looks like I'll have to buy a new
computer soon. Or perhaps I'll go to the public library and use theirs.
Marvin Margoshes
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