Re: [GOAL] [SCHOLCOMM] Willinsky proposes short copyright for researcharticles

2018-03-24 Thread Bosman, J.M. (Jeroen)
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Re: [GOAL] [SCHOLCOMM] Willinsky proposes short copyright for researcharticles

2018-03-23 Thread SANFORD G THATCHER
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Re: [GOAL] [SCHOLCOMM] Willinsky proposes short copyright for researcharticles

2018-03-23 Thread Tony Ross-Hellauer
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Re: [GOAL] [SCHOLCOMM] Willinsky proposes short copyright for researcharticles

2018-03-23 Thread Heather Morrison
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Re: [GOAL] [SCHOLCOMM] Willinsky proposes short copyright for researcharticles

2018-03-23 Thread SANFORD G THATCHER
But you still have to determine what is and what is not a journal article for these purposes. Does it include an article in a semi-popular publication like Scientific American or National Geographic? Even articles in places like the New York Review of Books can be very scholarly, complete with

Re: [GOAL] [SCHOLCOMM] Willinsky proposes short copyright for researcharticles

2018-03-23 Thread David Wojick
Saying that shortening the term of copyright for journal articles somehow limits academic freedom seems like a strange argument (at best). It may limit academic opportunity to make money in the rare cases you mention but most legislation involves tradeoffs like this. The benefits of OA are

Re: [GOAL] [SCHOLCOMM] Willinsky proposes short copyright for researcharticles

2018-03-23 Thread Heather Morrison
Who would benefit from public domain (or CC-BY) as default to scholarly works? I argue: Elsevier would be the greatest beneficiary, and would do so through using such works as part of toll access products such as Scopus and their metadata services sold to rankings agencies (e.g. Times Higher

Re: [GOAL] [SCHOLCOMM] Willinsky proposes short copyright for researcharticles

2018-03-23 Thread SANFORD G THATCHER
It's highly unlikely that Frankfurt or the other author I mentioned received any federal funding that entailed making their work public domain. The question arises--as it does for forcing authors to accept CC BY as the default OA license--whether academic freedom should be limited in this way or

Re: [GOAL] [SCHOLCOMM] Willinsky proposes short copyright for researcharticles

2018-03-23 Thread Ross Mounce
The "On Bullshit" example is quite an interesting one. But I looked it up for the finer details of it - it is clearly not just a simple "reprint". Frankfurt’s essay "On Bullshit" was just 20 pages [Raritan Quarterly Review 6 (1986) pp 81-100] Frankfurt's book "On Bullshit" is 80 pages [Princeton

Re: [GOAL] [SCHOLCOMM] Willinsky proposes short copyright for researcharticles

2018-03-23 Thread David Wojick
Sandy, I think the argument here is that the benefits of OA are sufficiently great that isolated instances like this do not outweigh them. Keep in mind too that if any article flows from federal funding it will already be made public after 12 months, at least the accepted manuscript will be,