[GOAL] Re: Library Vetting of Repository Deposits

2014-10-02 Thread Kathleen Shearer
At COAR, we have been doing some work to promote the implementation of OA clauses in publishers' licenses. These types of clauses are starting to be requested by institutions and licensing agencies to secure the rights of authors to deposit into a repository, often in order to comply with OA p

[GOAL] Re: Library Vetting of Repository Deposits

2014-09-27 Thread Danny Kingsley
Putting aside the tit for tat nature of some of this discussion, one of the big problems for making available works that have been deposited to repositories is the complexity of the copyright compliance. There are the rules imposed by publishers, and then the possibility that the institution or fu

[GOAL] Re: Library Vetting of Repository Deposits

2014-09-24 Thread Joachim SCHOPFEL
Here in France, librarians often are more or less unsatisfied with scientists because of lacking awareness, motivation and enthusiasm for open access. In the UK, some scientists seem unsatisfied with librarians because they do their job too carefully. Why not swap them? (I am joking, yet...why n

[GOAL] Re: Library Vetting of Repository Deposits

2014-09-24 Thread Heather Morrison
Thanks for defending the profession, Jean-Claude and I think you've made some important points. However, there is nothing with service. Providing good service does not make one a servant. 20% of the work of an academic is commonly formally described as "service". One could also describe teachin

[GOAL] Re: Library Vetting of Repository Deposits

2014-09-24 Thread Jean-Claude Guédon
Beware of categories such as "librarians" or "publishers" or even "researchers". Let us remember also that librarians were behind the creation of repositories back around 2003-4. Without them, their work and, often, their money and resources, we simply would not have these repositories. That some l

[GOAL] Re: Library Vetting of Repository Deposits

2014-09-23 Thread Andrew A. Adams
Dana Roth wrote: > Thanks to Stevan for reminding the list that working with librarians > will, in the long run, be much more productive than denigrating their > efforts. I am all in favour or working with librarians when those librarians are working to promote Open Access. When librarians work

[GOAL] Re: Library Vetting of Repository Deposits

2014-09-23 Thread Dana Roth
s List (Successor of AmSci) Subject: [GOAL] Re: Library Vetting of Repository Deposits As a librarian knowing OA far far worse than you do I completely agree that we can speed up the process. To me publishing is pushing a button as soon as you're ready. All else comes afterwards. Ideally th

[GOAL] Re: Library Vetting of Repository Deposits

2014-09-23 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Bosman, J.M. (Jeroen) wrote: > As a librarian knowing OA far far worse than you do I completely agree > that we can speed up the process. To me publishing is pushing a button as > soon as you're ready. All else comes afterwards. Ideally that includes peer > revi

[GOAL] Re: Library Vetting of Repository Deposits

2014-09-23 Thread Richard Poynder
Thanks for clarifying this Stevan. I am thinking that OA advocates really don’t want to alienate their main allies. From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of Stevan Harnad Sent: 23 September 2014 15:44 To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) Subje

[GOAL] Re: Library Vetting of Repository Deposits

2014-09-23 Thread Bosman, J.M. (Jeroen)
As a librarian knowing OA far far worse than you do I completely agree that we can speed up the process. To me publishing is pushing a button as soon as you're ready. All else comes afterwards. Ideally that includes peer review by the way (the ArXiv/preprint model), but that's not the point here