[GOAL] Re: On Author/Publisher Agreements

2013-05-06 Thread Stevan Harnad
Ifr any of the 60% of journals that currently endorse immediate, unembargoed Green OA (the "Side of the Angels") were to decide to backslide and join the 40% of journals that embargo Green OA, what is awaiting them is (1) some extremely bad press (which one publisher in particular can ill afford) p

[GOAL] Re: On Author/Publisher Agreements

2013-05-05 Thread David Prosser
I'm sorry Stevan, but they have not answered all the questions in a single sentence - they have attached a large number of conditions to that sentence. The full answer only comes from reading the entire policy. We may not like the conditions, may believe that they are gibberish and even unenfo

[GOAL] Re: On Author/Publisher Agreements

2013-05-03 Thread Stevan Harnad
On 2013-05-03, at 10:53 AM, Couture Marc wrote: > I strongly support the advice to ignore altogether all these extra and > confusing conditions. > > Let's ask Elsevier the question in our own terms: > 1. Do you, YES or NO, allow posting of author manuscripts? > 2. If YES: > a) Which version

[GOAL] Re: On Author/Publisher Agreements

2013-05-03 Thread Couture Marc
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:08 AM, wrote: > > Elsevier's policy is now clear: > Well, Elsevier's intentions are maybe clear (or clearer now) but, personally, I wouldn't qualify as "clear" a policy which is scattered among many documents and which, even after being read and reread, still leaves mu

[GOAL] Re: On Author/Publisher Agreements

2013-05-03 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 10:33 AM, David Kane wrote: Thanks for flagging this. I am not clear about exactly what you mean > though. > Are you talking about an extra clause in the existing Institutional > LICENCING agreement, or a second Institutional agreement that they are now > introducing? > *