[GOAL] Re: On the proposal to raise the Green OA goalpost from Gratis to CC-BY

2012-10-11 Thread Stevan Harnad
On 2012-10-11, at 12:26 AM, Andras Holl wrote: My opinion is that libre OA and CC By in particular is something that sounds good, but in reality nothing more than a misconception. It is thoughts, facts, ideas which should be reusable - and they already are - not articles. Gratis OA is what

[GOAL] Re: On the proposal to raise the Green OA goalpost from Gratis to CC-BY

2012-10-11 Thread Stevan Harnad
Begin forwarded message: From: Andras Holl h...@konkoly.hu Subject: [BOAI] Re: On the proposal to raise the Green OA goalpost from Gratis to CC-BY Date: 11 October, 2012 7:42:05 AM EDT To: boai-fo...@ecs.soton.ac.uk Reply-To: boai-fo...@ecs.soton.ac.uk Hi David, I have argued

[GOAL] Re: On the proposal to raise the Green OA goalpost from Gratis to CC-BY

2012-10-10 Thread Jan Velterop
Stevan is not trying to achieve open access. (Although, admittedly, the definition of open access is so much subject to revision, that it depends on the day you looked what it, or one of its flavours, actually means or can mean — for the avoidance of doubt, my anchor point is the definition

[GOAL] Re: On the proposal to raise the Green OA goalpost from Gratis to CC-BY

2012-10-10 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Jan Velterop velte...@gmail.com wrote: Stevan is not trying to achieve open access. (Although, admittedly, the definition of open access is so much subject to revision, that it depends on the day you