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Subject: [GOAL] Re: Scholars jobs not publisher profits
There's nothing odd about companies wanting to profit off of the work
of others. What is unusual about scholarly publishing is that the
costs are not connected with the impact of the costs
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Of Jean-Claude Guédon
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Subject: [GOAL] Re: Scholars jobs not publisher profits
And the result of this effective market is that wealth will become an
important factor
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Of Dana Roth
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Subject: [GOAL] Re: Scholars jobs not publisher profits
In defense of Jeffrey Beall
the extreme
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Subject: [GOAL] Re: Scholars jobs not publisher profits
In defense of Jeffrey Beall … the extreme variability of Hindawi’s APCs
] On Behalf
Of Heather Morrison
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Subject: [GOAL] Re: Scholars jobs not publisher profits
There's nothing odd about companies wanting to profit off of the work of
others. What
Heather Morrison writes
If a university is looking for voluntary severance from faculty
members while at the same time paying even more above inflationary
cost increases to publishers with high profit margins, that is wrong
and needs to stop.
I agree. And the way to stop it is to cancel
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[mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of Heather Morrison
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Subject: [GOAL] Re: Scholars jobs not publisher profits
There's nothing odd about companies
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Subject: [GOAL] Re: Scholars jobs not publisher profits
There's nothing odd about companies wanting to profit off of the work of
others. What is unusual about scholarly publishing is that the costs
On 5 October 2013 19:12, Sally Morris sa...@morris-assocs.demon.co.ukwrote:
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The point I was trying to make is that - unlike with subscriptions - there
is a direct connection between the person who benefits from the value
offered (the author) and the publisher. Thus the marketplace should
...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf
Of Heather Morrison
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Subject: [GOAL] Re: Scholars jobs not publisher profits
There's nothing odd about companies wanting
On 5 October 2013 19:51, Heather Morrison heather.morri...@uottawa.cawrote:
The only place where OA article processing fees fit into this picture is
with hybrid journals / publishers. If the market were working, overall
subscription prices should be decreasing, not increasing, to reflect the
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Subject: [GOAL] Re: Scholars jobs not publisher profits
Jeffrey
in the comment section to your post Ahmed Hindawi points out that the average
revenue per paper published by Hindawi is about $600. For people like
Elsevier it is in excess
. oktober 2013 10:27
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Emne: [GOAL] Re: Scholars jobs not publisher profits
Jeffrey
Ignoratio elenchi? That's from Harry Potter, right? Spell meaning 'facts be
gone'?
Heather is interested in the flow of money out of academia. If that is your
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[mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] På vegne av David Prosser
Sendt: 4. oktober 2013 10:27
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Emne: [GOAL] Re: Scholars jobs not publisher profits
Jeffrey
Ignoratio elenchi? That's from Harry Potter, right? Spell meaning
To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
Subject: [GOAL] Re: Scholars jobs not publisher profits
Jeffrey
Ignoratio elenchi? That's from Harry Potter, right? Spell meaning 'facts be
gone'?
Heather is interested in the flow of money out of academia. If that is your
area of interest
Heather:
I've
documentedhttp://scholarlyoa.com/2013/04/04/hindawis-profits-are-larger-than-elseviers/
that Hindawi's profit margin is higher than Elsevier's. So, I am correct in
assuming that you include Hindawi in your advice below, no? Also, it's been
revealed that a number of the higher
Jeffrey
in the comment section to your post Ahmed Hindawi points out that the average
revenue per paper published by Hindawi is about $600. For people like Elsevier
it is in excess of $4000 per paper. I think it is clear which publisher is
taking (significantly) more money out of the system.
David,
Thank you for your ignoratio elenchi.
--Jeffrey
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David Prosser
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 3:03 PM
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