hi Josh,

The GOAL e-mails are usefully published in this archive:
http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/pipermail/goal/

At surface this sounds like an intriguing and creative idea, however I wonder 
if you have thought about copyright and related issues (e.g. academic 
attribution, plagiarism)? Every e-mail on a public list is automatically 
covered by copyright (in every country covered by the Berne convention), unless 
of course it’s released through a Creative Commons license. I tried doing this 
once on a different list but the list owner found it annoying and deleted the 
CC license (for good reason - some list members were having issues with the 
size of e-mails delivered).

If you’re copying small bits and creating what is essentially a new work it is 
possible that copyright would not be an issue. 

Attribution and plagiarism strikes me as trickier. Some of us (myself included) 
participate on this list as part of our academic work and/or their employment. 
If you take my words and fail to attribute me, that’s plagiarism, regardless of 
whether it is also a violation of copyright or not. However, it you try to 
attribute my words and have changed them through a storify, it seems likely 
that you will mis-attribute me. People might then begin citing me as saying 
something other than what I actually said based on your work, and at worst 
might cite me as saying something I actively disagree with.

It is a good thing that you asked. My suggestion is to find a group where all 
of the members are interested in participating in this experiment. One example 
of such a type of group might be a small group that has agreed to work on a 
particular project together. For a pilot, there may be groups interested in 
making things public right off the bat, but probably others where people might 
prefer to see the results privately before deciding.It is possible that there 
is a subset of GOAL list members who would be interested in the experiment, but 
if so please leave my e-mails out.

good luck!

Heather Morrison


> On Jun 16, 2016, at 10:53 AM, Josh Nicholson <jnichol...@thewinnower.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hello!
> 
> My name is Josh Nicholson and I am the founder of the Winnower, a scholarly 
> publishing platform that provides traditional scholarly publishing tools 
> (DOI, typesetting, archival, and Altmetrics) to non-traditional media 
> including blogposts, reddit AMAs, class essays, grants, theses, reviews, 
> responses to RFIs, lay summaries, journal clubs, and other new media so that 
> it counts for the scholarly record and the scholar’s career.  We’ve been live 
> for just over two years now and have 1220+ publications from universities 
> around the world.  
> 
> I wanted to reach out to this group about a potential idea that I had 
> regarding publishing emails—yes, emails.  Recently, I have received a barrage 
> of emails on another listserv (OSI) and while they are somewhat annoying in 
> the sense they clog my inbox, they are highly valuable in terms of content.  
> In short, I am interested in seeing if members of this listserv may wish to 
> have their public emails curated and published on the Winnower in more 
> readable publication-like format—a storify of emails, if you will. 
> 
> We’ve done something like this in the past with a panel talk 
> https://thewinnower.com/papers/1468-when-publishers-aren-t-getting-it-done 
> and I think we could do something like this going forward.
> 
> It’s just an idea at this point but if people are interested I can go ahead 
> and curate any threads they think may be interesting to show you how it would 
> look.  I am open to other ideas/suggestions too!
> 
> Would love to know your thoughts!
> 
> Best,
> Josh
> 
> 
> 
> JOSHUA NICHOLSON
> CEO, Co-founder, PhD
> @thewinnower
> 510.912.7245
> 
> 
> 
> 
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