Re: Bethesda statement on open access publishing

2005-03-14 Thread Leslie Carr
On 14 Mar 2005, at 04:16, David Goodman wrote: What remains is the literally academic distinction you mention: it cannot be listed on one's academic CV as "published." This is now as archaic as the structure of the academic world itself. But it is that world (and no other) in which we are wor

Re: Bethesda statement on open access publishing

2005-03-14 Thread l . hurtado
As someone who monitors this discussion and only rarely comments, one small observation in response to David Goodman. Although I appreciate his sentiment, the realia of current academic life cannot be ignored. E.g., for tenure and promotion, for granting bodies, etc., there remains the need to ide

Re: Bethesda statement on open access publishing

2005-03-14 Thread David Goodman
Stevan Harnad Sent: Sat 3/12/2005 9:12 PM To: american-scientist-open-access-fo...@listserver.sigmaxi.org Subject: Re: Bethesda statement on open access publishing (1) For OA purposes, a *publication* is a peer-reviewed journal article that one has published (we ignore here other public

Re: Bethesda statement on open access publishing

2005-03-13 Thread Stevan Harnad
een roads, but simply ask we > go a step further. And I do not believe advocating this blurs the > vision, deters efforts or slows down the movement toward OA, quite the > contrary. Unlike Stevan harnad, I do not see these two approaches as > competing with each other; neither do I see

Re: Bethesda statement on open access publishing

2005-03-13 Thread guedon
them as part of some kind of zero-sum game where doing work in one way can only deter, weaken or defer progress toward OA. Jean-Claude Guédon Le samedi 12 mars 2005 à 17:00 +, Stevan Harnad a écrit : > Amsci Topic Thread began: > "Bethesda statement on open acce

Re: Bethesda statement on open access publishing

2005-03-12 Thread Stevan Harnad
Amsci Topic Thread began: "Bethesda statement on open access publishing" (Jun 2003) http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/2877.html I think it is time to revisit the definition of Open Access: A meeting on April 11 2003 in Bethesda MD generated the "Bethes

Re: Bethesda statement on open access publishing

2003-07-09 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Tue, 8 Jul 2003, Jeff Weber wrote: > Open Access Publishing removes the protection of copyright law from > publishing efforts. This is incorrect. Open Access Publishing allows the author to retain the copyright, and with it the full protection that copyright is accorded by law. For the open-ac

Re: Bethesda statement on open access publishing

2003-06-23 Thread David Goodman
r the immediate adoption of your proposal--we need something now. On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Stevan Harnad wrote: > On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, Peter Suber wrote: > > > http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/fosblog.html ] > > Bethesda statement on open access publishing > > The Bethesda

Re: Bethesda statement on open access publishing

2003-06-23 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, Peter Suber wrote: > http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/fosblog.html ] > Bethesda statement on open access publishing The Bethesda statement is very useful and timely, but it would be far more valuable (1) if the support for open access were generalized beyo

Bethesda statement on open access publishing

2003-06-23 Thread Peter Suber
[Forwarded from FOS Blog and FOS Forum http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/fosblog.html ] Bethesda statement on open access publishing Peter Suber Jun 22, 2003 17:44 PDT [I'm forwarding an important statement on open access publishing from an April meeting of foundations, scientists, ed