Re: Green, Gold, Elsevier, Springer

2004-10-04 Thread Steve Hitchcock
At 17:05 03/10/04 +0100, Peter Murray-Rust wrote: For part of the authors' submission - the supplemental data - it is worse. I know that for some of this list only full text is published but for many scientists the supplemental data (without which the paper is not allowed to be published) is at

Re: Green, Gold, Elsevier, Springer

2004-10-03 Thread Andy Powell
On Fri, 1 Oct 2004, David Goodman wrote: Surely we all hope that as Springer and other publishers gain confidence with green OA, they will relax their requirements and specifically permit posting of the final pdfs. David, thanks for the reply. I don't strongly disagree with the sentiments

Re: Green, Gold, Elsevier, Springer

2004-10-03 Thread Peter Murray-Rust
I have recently taken the step of self-archiving in our institutional archive http://www.dspace.cam.ac.uk/handle/1810/741/ and hope that some details may be useful to the discussion. In particular I feel that the current colour system, while a useful general label for a publisher or journal is

Re: Green, Gold, Elsevier, Springer

2004-10-03 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Sat, 2 Oct 2004, Peter Murray-Rust wrote: I feel that the current colour system, while a useful general label for a publisher or journal is not sufficiently precise to encourage (or even allow) most authors to self-archive with confidence. In fact two different co-authoring colleagues have

Re: Green, Gold, Elsevier, Springer

2004-10-01 Thread David Goodman
, Gold, Elsevier, Springer On Thu, 30 Sep 2004, Stevan Harnad wrote: SPRINGER: [Springer] Authors are encouraged to post [= self-archive] their electronic pre-press articles and will not be required to remove electronic pre-press articles from publicly accessible servers

Green, Gold, Elsevier, Springer

2004-09-30 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Thu, 30 Sep 2004, Marie Meyer wrote: Have you seen the flap over Springer allowing open access for individual articles for the payment of something like $3,000? Am I correct in saying that Elsevier now allows self-archiving of individual articles at no charge? If so, is the difference

Re: Green, Gold, Elsevier, Springer

2004-09-30 Thread Stevan Harnad
On Thu, 30 Sep 2004, Andy Powell wrote: On Thu, 30 Sep 2004, Stevan Harnad wrote: (Note that the Springer statement is a bit vaguer, but of course Springer authors too should update their preprints to incorporate the changes made during the peer review and editing process.) Are you sure

Re: Green, Gold, Elsevier, Springer

2004-09-30 Thread Andy Powell
On Thu, 30 Sep 2004, Stevan Harnad wrote: SPRINGER: [Springer] Authors are encouraged to post [= self-archive] their electronic pre-press articles and will not be required to remove electronic pre-press articles from publicly accessible servers (including the author's own