: Monday, July 06, 2009 1:18 AM
Subject: Re: Submission Fees (was: RE: Overlay Journals Over Again...)
A subscription journal charging submission fees (or acceptance
fees or both) seems like a bit of double- (or triple-) dipping ,
unless it is honestly faithfully and fully translated into lower
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Subject: Re: Submission Fees (was: RE: Overlay Journals Over Again...)
On 5-Jul-09, at 4:37 AM, Jan Velterop wrote:
So it seems double-dipping unless it's honest? Perhaps it's honest
unless it's clearly double-dipping.
A very wide-spread misconception, on this list and elsewhere
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Subject: Re: Submission Fees (was: RE: Overlay Journals Over Again...)
Heather Morrison:
If 10% of last year's revenue
stream is coming from publication charges, prices should be decreased
by 10%. OR, libraries and others such as funding agencies,
departments, etc., should
-scientist-open-access-fo...@listserver.sigmaxi.org] On
Behalf Of Bill Hooker
Sent: 05 July 2009 21:26
To: american-scientist-open-access-fo...@listserver.sigmaxi.org
Subject: Re: Submission Fees (was: RE: Overlay Journals Over Again...)
Heather Morrison:
If 10% of last year's revenue
stream
call a misunderstanding my suggesting more
transparency here?
Anthony
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From: Stevan Harnad har...@ecs.soton.ac.uk
To: liblicens...@lists.yale.edu
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 1:18 AM
Subject: Re: Submission Fees (was: RE: Overlay Journals Over Again...)
A subscription
: Thursday, July 02, 2009 11:08 PM
To: liblicens...@lists.yale.edu
Subject: Submission Fees (was: RE: Overlay
Journals Over Again...)
The idea of submission fees is one that we at the
California
Digital Library have also repeatedly attempted to
advance
02, 2009 11:08 PM
To: liblicens...@lists.yale.edu
Subject: Submission Fees (was: RE: Overlay Journals Over Again...)
The idea of submission fees is one that we at the California
Digital Library have also repeatedly attempted to advance in
recent years. Publishers frequently cite the steep rise
On 5-Jul-09, at 4:37 AM, Jan Velterop wrote:
So it seems double-dipping unless it's honest? Perhaps it's honest
unless it's clearly double-dipping.
A very wide-spread misconception, on this list and elsewhere, is that
subscriptions somehow are priced linearly.
Comment:
Publisher revenue is
(was: RE:
Overlay Journals Over Again...)
On 5-Jul-09, at 4:37 AM, Jan Velterop wrote:
So it seems double-dipping unless it's honest? Perhaps it's honest
unless it's clearly double-dipping.
A very wide-spread misconception, on this list and elsewhere, is that
subscriptions somehow are priced
Heather Morrison:
If 10% of last year's revenue
stream is coming from publication charges, prices should be decreased
by 10%. OR, libraries and others such as funding agencies,
departments, etc., should not support the publication charges.
While I have seen publishers claim that OA uptake is
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Subject: [CLS Junk released by Allow List] Re: Submission Fees
(was: RE: Overlay Journals Over Again...)
On 5-Jul-09, at 4:37 AM, Jan Velterop wrote:
So it seems double-dipping unless it's honest? Perhaps it's honest
unless it's clearly double-dipping
: Overlay Journals Over Again...)
Heather Morrison:
If 10% of last year's revenue
stream is coming from publication charges, prices should be decreased
by 10%. OR, libraries and others such as funding agencies,
departments, etc., should not support the publication charges.
[Bill Hjooker:}
While
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Subject: [CLS Junk released by Allow List] Re: [CLS Junk released by Allow
List] Re: Submission Fees (was: RE: Overlay Journals Over
Again...)
Clarification: PLoS One is among the world's largest journals,
anticipating publication of about 4,800
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 11:08 PM
To: liblicens...@lists.yale.edu
Subject: Submission Fees (was: RE: Overlay Journals
Over Again...)
The idea of submission fees is one that we at the
California
Digital Library have also repeatedly attempted to advance
What Professor Harnad is proposing is very similar to the review
process that brought on the subprime mortgage crisis. Anyone who
lost retirement money or a job or is struggling with a mortgage
payment should read on.
The rating agencies (Fitch, Moody's, and Standard Poor) are
approached by
The overlay journal notion is and always has been an inchoate,
incoherent idea. Physicists thought that since they were happy just
using the Arxiv version of preprints and postprints, the journals
could be phased out, and the peer-review could be overlaid on
Arxiv.
But the journals are sustained
On 26/06/2009 05:31, Stevan Harnad wrote:
Nor is this mere semiology; for thinking in terms of overlay
journals rather than just peer-reviewed online-only journals with
distributed archiving and access-provision, we miss the fact that the
only real substantive components are the fact that
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