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Interesting text from Stevan harnad. let me comment as follows:
Le dimanche 15 novembre 2009 à 20:31 -0500, Stevan
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From: Couture Marc
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Marc Couture wrote :
I was speaking on general terms: I see
Hélène Bosc wrote :
I can give the example of the 65 researchers of the lab of PRC at INRA in
France who publish
about 100 articles a year.
Since 2003 our researchers publish in OA periodicals (essentially BMC
periodicals).
[...]
3 in 2008
As an exercise, I cross-checked with
On November 9, 2009, 18:22, Stevan Harnad wrote:
I'm not criticizing the pursuit of other options *in addition*
to mandating self-archiving, I'm criticizing pursuing them *instead*,
i.e.
without first doing the doable, and already long overdue.
As one who has worked (and devoted much time)
My colleague and comrade-at-arms, Marc Couture, has done the doable:
He has worked long and hard for the creation of an Institutional
Repository (IR), Archipel http://archipel.uqam.ca (named by him!) at
our institution, UQAM; he has deposited all his own papers therein;
and since then he has
Stevan Harnad wrote :
The one point I am not sure I quite understand in Marc's commentary
was I put more efforts [into] green-OA
because I see more immediate, if not overreaching, results in
gold-OA.
I was speaking on general terms: I see (but it may be highly
subjective) more progress on
On 11/10/09, Couture Marc couture.m...@teluq.uqam.ca wrote:
I was speaking on general terms: I see (but it may be highly subjective)
more progress on the general front of Gold OA with, for instance, successes
like PLoS, two journals appearing every day in DOAJ, etc...
But I must admit that we
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That gold dust cannot accelerate through mandates is right, but it
does not get in the way of green acres.
And in the
On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, Prof. Tom Wilson wrote:
TW: Self-archiving is one approach, free, subsidised OA journals
are another.
My position is not against the former, it is simply that one approach
alone is not likely to be successful and, on top of that,
subsidised OA
journals bring the maximum
On 1-Nov-09, at 10:21 AM, Prof. Tom Wilson wrote:
SH: Newspapers do not provide the service of peer review.
TW: Irrelevant - they are all subject to the same forces and, in any event,
it is
the scholarly community that provides peer review, not the publisher. Free OA
journals can provide
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Le samedi 31 octobre 2009 à 15:16 -0400, Stevan Harnad a écrit :
[snip]
(And I do try to preach it from a different
On 31 Oct 2009, at 16:05, Prof. Tom Wilson wrote:
2, anything that props up the industry will simply delay the
inevitable and
institutional repositories prop up the industry - indeed, why else
would
publishers give permission for authors' works to be archived?
Strong advocacy
of
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On 31-Oct-09, at 10:21 AM, Françoise Salager-Meyer wrote:
I agree that the only solution is AN INSTITUTIONAL MANDATE. My question
is:
In view of the fact that all researchers want to publish in top-notch
jornals (the 5.000 core journals), isnt' there an incompatibility between
the
On 31-Oct-09, at 12:05 PM, Prof. Tom Wilson wrote:
No one knows exactly how the 'open access' movement will pan out but
I think
that some things are fairly clear.
1, scholarly publishers are facing very similar problems to the
newspaper
industry - changes in technologies are making them
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Noel, Robert E. rn...@indiana.edu
wrote:
Anyway, others have devoted much more time and energy to this topic
than I have, but I'm skeptical of recommendations that bluntly
reject other strategies from the outset. ... It's tantamount to
engineers and scientists
Advice On Open Access: History Repeating Itself
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Noel, Robert E. rn...@indiana.edu
wrote:
Anyway, others have devoted much more time and energy to this topic
than I have, but I'm skeptical of recommendations that bluntly
reject other strategies from the outset
Consultants
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On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Noel, Robert E. rn...@indiana.edu
wrote
On 31 Oct 2009, at 13:09, Sally Morris (Morris Associates) wrote:
Since when was solar and wind energy free (any more than quality-
controlled
and value-added research literature!)?
On the contrary, sun and wind energy IS FREE. However, building the
infrastructure to collect and distribute
Harnad
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