[Goanet] Goan 'Kokno' used derogatorily

2006-04-02 Thread gilbertlaw
Yes Peter, "defrocked" is a derogatory term both to the indiviudal and to the institution the person belongs. If incorrect, one may even call the accusation "libelous". With a name like Peter, I thought you would know that!:=)) Kind Regards, GL Peter D'Souza 2. Is the term "defrocked" derogator

Re: [Goanet] Goan 'Kokno'

2006-04-02 Thread Mario Goveia
Cheap shot, Gilbert. I think YOU need to apologise. > When Manoj, a Hindu Goan, first used the term Kokno recently, he used it to refer to himself. He was not complaining about being called a Kokno. What he was complaining about was the derogatory use of the term "Hindu boys" by Afra Dias in her

Re: [Goanet] Goan 'Kokno' used derogatorily

2006-04-02 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- Peter D'Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >1. How reliable is proof when the only person >offering such proof has been known to modify quotes (in one instance actually inserting a word into quoted >text) before posting them in a public forum? > Who is this person? What quoted text and inser

[Goanet] Goan 'Kokno' used derogatorily

2006-03-31 Thread gilbertlaw
I read your post below with interest. Without reference to the individual you refer in your post, yet excluding no one; I wonder why people post supposedly "pious" post. Are they being smart, manipulative or just plain silly? Kind Regards, GL Santosh: > Goanetters, please note that the above c

Re: [Goanet] Goan 'Kokno'

2006-03-31 Thread Elisabeth Carvalho
if you think about it Ayatollah wasn't that bad! :)) --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Kudos Elisabeth, > You are on a fast-track to being an ayatollah. > Kind Regards, GL > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protectio

Re: [Goanet] Goan 'Kokno' used derogatorily

2006-03-31 Thread Chris Vaz
---Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---Goanetters, please note that the above claim of false accusation has been shown to be bogus... The above poster who is known on Goan websites as the "master-truncator" for his penchant to distort the e-mails of other e-mailers to advance and pr

[Goanet] Goan 'Kokno'

2006-03-31 Thread gilbertlaw
Kudos Elisabeth, You are on a fast-track to being an ayatollah. Kind Regards, GL Elisabeth Carvalho I hope you are not apologising on my behalf atleast. If you take the word "Konkno" out of the Konkani vocabulary, I'd be interested to know what you would replace it by. Hindu? There are many big

Fw: [Goanet] Goan 'Kokno' used derogatorily

2006-03-30 Thread Chris Vaz
- Original Message - From: "Chris Vaz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goan 'Kokno' used derogatorily Gilbert--

Re: [Goanet] Goan 'Kokno' used derogatorily

2006-03-30 Thread Jorge/Livia de Abreu Noronha
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on March 29, 2006: > > The original Portuguese name for Goan Hindus was "Cancanos" while for the native Catholics was "Canarins". > I would like to know where Gilbert found a Portuguese reference to "cancanos". As far as I know, they used to call the Hindus "gentios". J

Re: [Goanet] Goan 'Kokno' used derogatorily

2006-03-30 Thread Mario Goveia
I guess that means that you think it is OK to be derogatory towards Hindus, and point to someone else's bad behavior to justify your own? > Mario. > --- Bernado Colaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I wish you had known more about the contemprary > state of Goa, before making any comments. >

Re: [Goanet] Goan 'Kokno' used derogatorily

2006-03-30 Thread Gabe Menezes
> Goanetters, please note that the above claim of false > accusation has been shown to be bogus in another Goan > public forum. An abusive email from "Joy Braganza", > apparently deprecating the same priest whom now the > above poster derogatorily refers to as "defrocked", > has been conclusively s

Re: [Goanet] Goan 'Kokno'

2006-03-29 Thread Elisabeth Carvalho
Oscar, I hope you are not apologising on my behalf atleast. If you take the word "Konkno" out of the Konkani vocabulary, I'd be interested to know what you would replace it by. Hindu? There are many bigoted minds in Goa, who us the word "Hindu" and "Indian" in a derogatory manner. I think instead o

Re: [Goanet] Goan 'Kokno' used derogatorily

2006-03-29 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- Chris Vaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >So the matter of trust and veracity remains in >question; I have also been falsely accused in this >forum and another by an ostensible Hindu, as being the >author of that report -- which incidentally, is quite >innocuous although this person who uses the

Re: [Goanet] Goan 'Kokno'

2006-03-29 Thread Mario Goveia
I'm not sure why everyone is getting so upset and defensive over the use of the term Kokno. > Manoj Raikar, who first used this term in this current sequence, used it to refer to himself as a Hindu Goan. From my reading of his post, he was not complaining about the use of the term Kokno, "It lools

Re: [Goanet] Goan 'Kokno' used derogatorily

2006-03-29 Thread Mario Goveia
Can we please send it back to the bygone era where it belongs, even at the risk of losing out on an "educational" opportunity? Thank you. > Mario > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > With all due respects, this appellation would belong > to a bygone era, if posts like the one below did not > keep d

Re: [Goanet] Goan 'Kokno' used derogatorily

2006-03-29 Thread Chris Vaz
ever happen? Chris - Original Message - From: "Frederick [FN] Noronha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 7:25 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goan 'Kokno' used derogatorily In theory, the word "Konknno" means "from the Konkan".

Re: [Goanet] Goan 'Kokno' used derogatorily

2006-03-29 Thread Bernado Colaco
I wish you had known more about the contemprary state of Goa, before making any comments. BC --- Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bernardo, > What does Ms. Kakodkar have anything to do with > Manoj's request to be civil on Goanet? Can't you > address what he has said without reference t

[Goanet] Goan 'Kokno'

2006-03-29 Thread Oscar & Hazel Lobo
Re: "Goan Kokno" - An exchange of e-mails on Goanet. I rarely write on this forum as this forum is used by people to wash one another's dirty linen. I am not sure what the code of ethics, if any, of Goanet is. However, I think it is my duty as a Goan to comment on the exchange of e-mails regardin

[Goanet] Goan 'Kokno' used derogatorily

2006-03-29 Thread gilbertlaw
With all due respects, this appellation would belong to a bygone era, if posts like the one below did not keep digging stories from that era in unrelated issues. The chances are the mauxis and others of that era looked down on Mesticios and a whole lot of other people, including Christaums. The

Re: [Goanet] Goan 'Kokno' used derogatorily

2006-03-28 Thread Mario Goveia
Bernardo, What does Ms. Kakodkar have anything to do with Manoj's request to be civil on Goanet? Can't you address what he has said without reference to someone else's bad behavior? > Mario. > --- Bernado Colaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- Manoj Ganpatrao Raikar > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

Re: [Goanet] Goan 'Kokno' used derogatorily

2006-03-28 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha
In theory, the word "Konknno" means "from the Konkan". So the term should apply for all of us. But that's not the way it works. In reality, a number of Konkani words have strong pejorative, class, or demeaning connotations. For instance: poder (not just a baker), Gaudo (I've heard this word use

Re: [Goanet] Goan 'Kokno' used derogatorily

2006-03-27 Thread Bernado Colaco
--- Manoj Ganpatrao Raikar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It lools like GoaNet is only for Catholic > subscibers,i am a hindu (goan kokno) > and when i read hindu word being used in a > derogatory manner,i really feel bad. > Ask thai Kakodkar how she continued polarising Goa? Do not bury your hea

Re: [Goanet] Goan 'Kokno' used derogatorily

2006-03-26 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Manoj Ganpatrao Raikar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It lools like GoaNet is only for Catholic > subscibers,i am a hindu (goan kokno) > and when i read hindu word being used in a > derogatory manner,i really feel bad. > Mario adds: > Manoj, Thanks for pointing this out. Whoever deliberately u

Re: [Goanet] Goan 'Kokno' used derogatorily

2006-03-26 Thread Chris Vaz
; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 4:17 PM Subject: [Goanet] Goan 'Kokno' used derogatorily It lools like GoaNet is only for Catholic subscibers,i am a hindu (goan kokno) and when i read hindu word being used in a derogatory manner,i really feel bad. My fr

Re: [Goanet] Goan 'Kokno' used derogatorily

2006-03-26 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 25/03/06, Manoj Ganpatrao Raikar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: .I had narrated our > harrowing experiences we suffered at the hands of Goondas (i will not say > catholics). But it was not published.I would like to ask why was it not > circulated amongst GOANET Readers. > >

[Goanet] Goan 'Kokno' used derogatorily

2006-03-25 Thread Manoj Ganpatrao Raikar
It lools like GoaNet is only for Catholic subscibers,i am a hindu (goan kokno) and when i read hindu word being used in a derogatory manner,i really feel bad. My friend Mr Carvalho(catholic) and myself and suffered at the hands of konkani protagonists at the time of Konkani agitation.And I do no