All,

Gilbert's statement is curious and wrong for the following reasons:

1. The vast, overwhelming consensus is that the caste system is alive and well 
among some Goan
Catholics and in the Goa church.  Except for Gilbert, most (all?) of the posts 
appear to suggest
it exists.  So I am not sure what further consensus is needed other than 
Gilbert is now grudgingly
admitting to what is obvious to the rest of us.

2. I am not sure what "a few of them happen to be Catholics" means?  The caste 
system exists among
some Hindus too. Is Gilbert still being defensive with respect to Catholics 
with an emphasis on
their feelings?

3. Over the last few years, some priests and nuns have written or spoken to me 
privately and have
commended me for my constructive comments where the church needs to improve.  
In addition, I
occasionally receive thanks for my positive comments - the most recent was two 
weeks ago regarding
the great work the Redemptorist Goan priests are doing in social justice 
matters.  In certain
instances, they said they wrote or speak privately as they teach at Catholic 
institutions or are
affiliated with Catholic hospitals, etc. and do not want public comments to 
generate controversy. 
Same with lay Catholics who have written or spoken to me privately. I 
understand but I do not
agree as I think it is important to speak up publicly.  Is Gilbert constrained 
by being in this
group where he cannot speak out "without wounding any individual, group of 
individuals, segments
of Goan society or Goan institutions"?

Regards,
George

--- Gilbert Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> With so many replies to Cornell, here may be consensus statement around
> which many Goan Catholics participating in this thread may find
> acceptable.
> 
........ 
> 
> "Some Goans still continue to have some deep-seated caste instincts and
> unfortunately a few of them happen to be Catholics." 
> 
> This makes a lot more sense without wounding any individual, group of
> individuals, segments of Goan society or Goan institutions. 

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