Re: Fwd: Re: [Goanet] Konkani lessons in the GTA

[joao manuel]

Goans have been known to raise futile controversies, in many parts of the 
world, and there are even different clubs or associations having caste based 
members.  Has any Goan in Canada succedded in imparting the knowledge of 
Konkani to his "brothers and sisters"?  Please let me know.  However, ever 
since I  settled here, barely two years ago,THERE HAVE BEEN SOCIALS AND 
SOCIALS, EVEN TWO TWO GOAN SOCIALS ON THE SAME DAY!!!.  I have attended some 
of them, including VIVA GOA, which had a good entertaining value, but the 
Goans have remained in the dark regarding their colourful culture and thir 
rich and glorious past.  If there were people in Canada already 
knowledgeable of the Konkani language, then why did they hide their Konkani 
"lamps under the bushel"  Were they waiting for a person like Tim de Melo to 
start the Konknni lessons to ridicule him, like the proverbial GOAN CRABS?  
Come on!  Let us all, learned or not, gather together and HAVE A FRANK 
DISCUSSION ON HOW TO BRING ABOUT UNITY among ourselves, instead of using the 
internet to wash our dirty linen.

Regards,

J.M.



>From: C deSouza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Fwd: Re: [Goanet] Konkani lessons in the GTA
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 19:41:07 -0700 (PDT)


Eugene Correia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:From: Eugene Correia
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Konkani lessons in the GTA
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:11:38 -0700 (PDT)
Joe Vaz finds no problem with the Konkani Tim de Mello
wrote. That's the real problem with Konkani,
particularly between the spoken Konkani and the
written Konkani.
Don't we normally say: Tuka dev borem korun" instead
of the other way. Or, just "Dev borem korun." Literal
Konkani has some form.
One of the accusations from anti-Konkani people is
that Konkani lacks formal grammar. But Konkani
scholars have proved this wrong.
To each his own Konkani.
Peace,

Eugene

--- Joe Vaz wrote:
>
> Tim de Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wrote:
> [On behalf of the fourteen students, I would like to
> extend a very warm word
> of thanks to our tutor, Mr. Joao Manuel Pereira who
> inconvenienced his own
> family and went out of his way to teach us Konkani
> (and Konknni) the way it
> is spoken today. Dev borem korum tuka ani tuji
> famil.]
>
>
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>
> >... Dev borem korum tuka ani tuji famil.<
>
>
> [Reading the above sentence, it seems Tim didn't
> learn
> his Konkani well.
>
> A better way and probably gramatical way to write
> would be:
>
> Tuka and tujea familik dev borem korum.
>
> Eugene Correia]
>
>
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>
>
> “Dev borem korum…” loosely translated would be “God
> Bless….” although Goans
> commonly use these words to say “Thank You…”
>
> As a Goan, the Konkani I know --I have learned at my
> mother’s knee. I would
> go with Tim De Mello, and see no wrong in saying:
> “Dev borem korum, tuka ani
> tuj[e] famil[ik].”
>
>
> In the context Tim is using the sentence, I read it
> as: “Thanks to you and
> your family.”
>
>
> The best way to ensure the survival of our rich
> legacy of language --Goans’
> mother tongue “Konkani”-- is by passing it [Konkani]
> down from mother to
> son, from father to daughter, from one generation to
> another.
>
> Dev borem korum. God Bless!
>
> Joe Vaz
>
>
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