Fr. Ivo,
Thank you for taking the time to respond. If you feel
that science is based on unverifiable opinion and
unsubstantiated facts, I dont belive this discussion
will go very far. Science is obviously not perfect,
which is why it promotes an environment for healthy
debate and self correction.
"Fr. Ivo Da C. Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The facts only reveal our human frailty. We are
> sinners. We need God's
> redemption. The bishops find it difficult to cope up
> with the problem. It is also money racket.
> Paedophilia is a crime. We have to learn the
> measures that are to be
Nasci Caldeira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It is the 'order of nature'; like Fr Ivo says; it's
> not antiquated religious
> dogma; religion is only accepting the truth! For
> heaven's sake, Santosh, you
> and scientists and agnostics like you have a lot to
> learn, in this field.
> Santosh, I t
d News" as in the
Gospels. "I am the way, the truth and the Life"; You should believe again in
all this! Better than other false gods! Amen. No bad wishes, Marlon. Just
good friendly advise!
Cheers!
Nasci Caldeira
Melbourne.
From: Marlon Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To
Reasonably said Gabe. I did not much to say so far but wish to say a bit on
the points you raise. I personally feel that no one should impose their
sexuality or sense of it onto others- whether they be hetero or homosexual.
But it is regarded as freedom to be able to do so. Sapiens and transient
be
I find it difficult to fault Homosexuals and gays, as long as they do
not impose their sexuality on others. This is something we have to
accommodate and not be insensitive to. Any family can have offspring
that turn out this way. What would the opinion of our Conservatives on
hermaphrodites be? Kil
What Fr. Ivo is stating is just opinion. Currently
there is no definitive scientific evidence that
indicates that homo-sexuality is socio-cultural or is
endemic to a certain fraction of the human population.
The simplistic opinions of the church that has been
wrong on so many issues cannot be rel
Hi all,
Well said, Fr. Ivo;
Santosh Helekar, please take note!
We as a society do not condemn these aberrations, but we do not accept these
as normal; hence the need to help these sick persons. This type of help
should not be construed as acceptance of something against the 'human
nature/order',
"Fr. Ivo Da C. Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I do not deny the facts. I have affirmed that
> homosexuality is wrong. Yet the
> priests have to be helped. The problem boils down to
> what I have said: Let us do something for them...
Fr. Ivo da C.Souza,
Parishioners have been doing their le
"Fr. Ivo Da C. Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a quick answer: there should not be
> "homosexual Catholic priests", but if there are,
> as the media are publicizing, then homosexuality
> does not cease to be "an aberration", "abnormal".
Fr. Ivo da C. Souza,
Here in N. America, its e
Homosexuality is certainly not abnormal to
homosexuals?
--- "Fr. Ivo Da C. Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> "Fr. Ivo Da C. Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> 3. Do you believe homosexuality is evil?
> > Homosexuality is an aberration. It is abnormal.
>
> Father Ivo,
> I have a quick questi
Victor,
Good one ! But who are those ? ..
* SOME OF US *
let .7000 plus or so , tell us.
rene
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Here we are again, fellow Goanetters, not discussing
> issues that raised
> so much heat and dust in the past, and once again
>
Here we are again, fellow Goanetters, not discussing issues that raised
so much heat and dust in the past, and once again some of us are
throwing dirt at the others. "You are this" and "You are that" and who
knows what else.
When will some of us ever stop throwing stones at other people?
F
George,
You, too, need to relax and let me find out the
official reasons, if any, before continuing this
drumbeat of accusations. Since when did you become
such an expert on Catholic doctrine and practice that
you "know" everything with such certainty?
If your mind is closed, that is quite anothe
Gabe,
You need to relax and lighten up a little. Chill,
bro', as we say in the hood.
First of all, though I am a huge Bush-supporter and
worked to elect and re-elect him in my battleground
state of Ohio, I don't recall taking any offense at
postings ridiculing him, unless you are translating my
c
On 25/04/05, Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't have the answer to your question about
> fractions, Marlon. I recently agreed with George that
> even Papa Ratzi is a cafeteria Catholic at some level.
RESPONSE: You took offence to people's postings denigrating George
Bush WRT to his
I don't have the answer to your question about
fractions, Marlon. I recently agreed with George that
even Papa Ratzi is a cafeteria Catholic at some level.
I believe practicing Catholics unconsciously use the
standards of "on balance" and "baby and bathwater",
and use the tenets of the Church and
This is exactly the point I am trying to make. What
fraction of the self proclaimed "true catholics"
actually practice or believe in all the tenants of
their religion. Heck, what fraction of the clergy do
the same? (I am assuming that child molestation is not
one of required tasks of the clergy!)
In a recent post I asked a simple question that NO ONE
ANSWERED. The question was, "Is there anyone out
there who is NOT a cafeteria Catholic at some level?
Just curious."
Does Gilbert's complex epistle defending
"non-cafeteria" Catholics mean that he would answer my
question above with a firm,
On 23/04/05, George Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Santosh
>
> Catholic practice and teaching has changed over times at the Papacy level.
> Does it mean the
> present Pope is a cafeteria Catholic too?..
The right-wing fundamentalists would like us to believe that Church
h
Yes, George, the Pope is also a cafeteria Catholic, in
my never-humble opinion. As I asked in another post,
is there anyone out there WHO ISN'T, at some level?
And, NO, George, the Catholic Church has NOT been "one
unbroken chain of constant practices."
The way I see it one has three choices, 1)
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