Dear Dias,
I normally avoid your irrational messages sent to me unsolicited. The trailing message is one among these. In reply to your message, may I respectfully remind you that I am a citizen of India, and alike you I have been conferred full rights to employment throughout India, which I have earned through fair and open competition. Further, I pay taxes in the form of house taxes, excise duty, road tax and all other state taxes in Goa similar to you. Living in Goa for past over 31 years I am proud to be Goan Indian. Are you not an Indian? Your letter is a burning example of hate speech, and it does not undermine the role people like us are playing for the development of Goa and our India. Please be advised that I am the team who has helped the Govt. of Goa for CRZ demarcation, Mondovi Bride etc. What is your contribution to the development and progress of Goa. You were employed in a central govt Institution, and your full salary was born by the Govt. of India. I am amazed to learn that after paying all these taxes, I am still been able to transfer 95% percent at my salary to Delhi. Such comments are deplorable I am sorry that I entered in a debate. I did so because you marked the said mail to me. Please refrain from sending any mail to me in the future, because if one is not tolerant to the opinion of others, he has no right to send them any unsolicited mail. Best regards, Onkar S. Chauhan ______________________________________________________________________________ Disclaimer: This communication is confidential and is not an unsolicited commercial communication or spam. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this communication in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy the same. Any unauthorized disclosure; copying, distribution or use of this message is strictly prohibited, and if done, will result in strict legal action. This message is not guaranteed to be complete or error free. No liability is assumed for any errors and/or omissions in the contents of this message. From: Stephen Dias [mailto:steve.dia...@gmail.com] Sent: 26 November 2015 08:05 To: Goanet; Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! Cc: edi...@nizgoenkar.org; Sidharth Kuncalienker; Laxmikant Parsekar; manoharparrikar; mridula sinha; chief secretary goa; commissioner; Onkar Chauhan Subject: MILITARY ESTABLISHMENT MUST DECONGEST PANJIM FOR A SMART CITY --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DEAR CHAUHAN Your letter created rift among people in the internet/GOANET. What myself and Sidharth, the present MLA of Panjim, were talking is just about the Smart City for Panjim development. My worry was that these defence establishment are creating problem for Panjim as well as to Goans and not for migrants who come to Goa like you who enjoy our hospitality. Do not border about the inconveniences cause to us, your salary 95% is perhaps transferred to Delhi where you come from, poor Goans have to pay through their nose, for your comforts with higher taxes for us on account of migrants menace. Only problem became when Sidharth deviated and gave support on military people and the civilians was put in low category. ( refer my letter to Sidarth). Even Parrikar who is our former MLA and Opposition Leader and now Defence Minister has argued and always fought in the assembly that these establishment must leave Panjim to give place for Panjimites for decongesting of city and also he has requested former Defence Minister A.K Antony of Congress but so called HIGH COMMAND whether BJP or Congress who did nothing to Goa's holistic plan. Even former Municipality Mayors like Ashok Naik and Surendra Furtado did so much and written many letters to Goa Government and to Parrikar to pursue the matter. At that point of time I started arguing it that civilians not only doctors, engineers scientists , professors but now I say, also nurses , technicians, workers who collect garbage and get diseases etec, farmers and all low paid poor people are suffering in Goa etc etec. Do you all think that Garbage collector, fire brigade personal, and politician’s car sirens seen everyday zooming on our roads, are they giving a good sleep to us? Now, since you pocked your nose into this affair when was not required, your sentiments on military, AC rooms, OROP which we are yet to get and not sure and may not get at all, etc, and we get I will salute you, but the issue of Panjim on defense establishment has blown up out of proportion by you and Sidharth. I have nothing wrong on military people who I am also concerned about the total welfare of all Indians and not section of the society but holistic development is required for everybody. I cannot and will never insult the soldiers as I am Indian as Military is also important to me and always will be. Stephen Dias, Dona Paula Concerned Senior Citizen of Goa. Date: 26th Nov 2015 Message: 4 Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 11:52:17 +0000 (UTC) From: Bernado Colaco < <mailto:ole_...@yahoo.co.uk> ole_...@yahoo.co.uk> To: " <mailto:goanet@lists.goanet.org> goanet@lists.goanet.org" < <mailto:goanet@lists.goanet.org> goanet@lists.goanet.org> Subject: [Goanet] WILL MILITARY ESTABLISHMENT BE SHUNTED OUT FROM PANJIM BY PARRIKAR BEFORE HIS BIRTHDAY? Message-ID: < <mailto:2086658065.16869880.1448452337939.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com> 2086658065.16869880.1448452337939.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Shri Chauhan, Your nation was created by the British, who left it in misery. Then you came and invade our place and now tell us that your soldiers are sacrificing for Goa. In fact your soldiers are having a jolly good time in the Goans sunshine. B. Colaco ------------------------------ Dear Dias, I am sad to read this message. With due regret I inform you that you have insulted the brave army men of the country. You are also getting OROP now. I feel one should be rather sensitive. The piece of land belongs to our nation which does provides all the facility to Goa as well. I feel you should respect the army and all other defense personnel who remain awake in hostile conditions for better part of their life. Please compare your salary and comfort of an AC rooms before commenting on others. One must salute the supreme selfless sacrifice of soldiers, who leave behind their entire family to suffer. Regards, Onkar S. Chauhan Jose 21:50 (9 hours ago) to Goa's, me, Laxmikant, manoharparrikar, chief, mridula, mayor, Sidharth, Chauhan My dear Stephen, While I understand any prevailing frustrations, I was unhappy with the tone of your post, esp the heading. Accordingly, as much as I am ambivalent about the often gaseous and self-serving spouting of politicians, I believe that both Mr. Kuncalienkar and Mr. Chauhan have made very valid points. Surely, the citizens have to be appropriately consulted before land is taken away from them. However, one cannot and should not be offensive towards the very individuals who are charged with the responsibility of protecting us. That brings me to three other points: (1) Members of the armed forces are NOT the only ones who face dangers while the rest of us 'Sleep in Air Conditioned Comfort'. Doctors and other health care professionals also expose themselves to severe life-threatening infections every single day and night. And so do their families! Similarly, Garbage disposal , Electricity and Construction workers (to name a few) face enormous dangers for the rest of us. (2) It is important that we look after them too in a similar fashion. (3) Just imagine what sort of country (and Life) we would have had without ALL these 'workers'. The question is: When last have you heard a politician take up their (these workers) cause ? Thank you all for your attention. jc On Nov 25, 2015, at 5:20 AM, Chauhan OS <on...@nio.org> wrote: Dear Dias, I am sad to read this message. With due regret I inform you that you have insulted the brave army men of the country. You are also getting OROP now. I feel one should be rather sensitive. The piece of land belongs to our nation which does provides all the facility to Goa as well. I feel you should respect the army and all other defense personnel who remain awake in hostile conditions for better part of their life. Please compare your salary and comfort of an AC rooms before commenting on others. One must salute the supreme selfless sacrifice of soldiers, who leave behind their entire family to suffer. Regards, Onkar S. Chauhan <blockquote> PARRIKAR MUST GIVE PANJIM ITS DUE Dear Sidharth, Panjim M.L.A. ( reply to your mail) Thanking you very much for noting that I am a senior citizen and also recognizing my age and experience. You must realize that it is the hard work and sacrifice of the generation past which includes me and your dear father (when I consider him GREAT), that you are able to come in power and represent Panjim. Don’t go “GAGA” about the defense forces that the media and you politicians tend to put in high esteem and create an undue hype. For their contribution, if any, they get lots of taxes exemption, privileges, facilities for free medical and Hospital expenses, land etc etc. Today, these men have fought for their own benefits and got One Rank One Pension (OROP). They have insulted us and Mr. Manohar Parrikar in particular by burning their medals. As an inexperience youngster you may hold armed forces in esteem, but sadly you don’t seems to realize the sacrifices put by us (the civilians of India and Goa), which has made the generation next and these armed forces have a comfortable living, and get due compensation in terms of salary, perks and other facilities which we as Senior Citizens do not get, once we are retired. Do scientists, professors, doctors, engineers, and even priests like Fr. Bismarque of Goa doing civilian services get free or subsidized alcohol, free medical Hospital treatment, free housing in defense colonies, once we are kick out? We have to fend for ourselves and many of you do not care to recognize our services. Civilians have lost their arms, their eyes, their legs, and I particularly quote about my own wife who worked on pollution and detecting mercury poisoning in laboratory analyzing on polluted waters in Goa . She worked in Chemistry department also as scientist in NIO, and only I have to look after her on her paralytic conditions, people have lost their lives on field visits during research survey projects. Many professors have been disfigured by chemical explosion while conducting research activities. It is not a case, few soldiers suffering tragedy; it is hundreds of scientists, who suffer unrecognized. They get no medal, so they cannot burn them even if they wish to and insult the country,. Our dear Fr. Bismarque did more than a soldier for Goa and the country, but sadly let alone India even Goans will not celebrate his martyrdom and he will like other civilian martyrs will be left unrecognized. Do we recognize the contribution of Prof Dabodkar, Prof Kalburgi, Prof Pansari, and our NIO ex-Director Dr S.Z. Qasim, who laid down their lives for achieving a rational, enlightens India ? It is high time that you take out your focus from military men and also give due recognition to scientific community and others who are victims in the cause of development of the country. If India has gone to Mars, if India has gone to Antartica, and if India has come up in the green, white, blue and pink revolution it is the hard work of these non glorified men, called scientists, professors, engineers, and priests etc. So, it is high time that the defense forces are shown their true place and they occupy their own niche, why make people of Panjim suffer when these armed forces from Panjim has huge tracks of land in Bambolim, Merces, Nerul, Vasco, Dabolim, Navelim, etc etc; we in Panjim are suffering acutely due to parking problem, garbage, casino menace, and also now military intrusion. And you unwittingly support them. Get out of your shell dear Panjim M.L.A and please support. Stephen Dias Senior Citizen and Panjimites
