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Christianity?s Place in the Idea of India (HT, 23/8/2019) (V M) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 20:50:06 +0530 > From: CCR TV <ccrtvstu...@gmail.com> > To: goanet@lists.goanet.org > Subject: [Goanet] Schedule for Saturday 24th August, 2019 > Message-ID: > <CA+1QXA6XegoRCipiw5VT944frL+Po7WCwdf2dDHS2Cp= > 2ne...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > CCR TV GOA > Channel of God's love > > Kindly pass around the word to your friends and relatives in any part of > the globe that they can keep track of all the CCR TV output (including our > archives) via the simple-to-use, > free-to download CCR TV app from the Google Playstore. > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccr.tv4 > Email ID: ccrgoame...@gmail.com > > Schedule for Saturday 24th August, 2019 > > 12:00 AM > Rosary - Joyful Mysteries > > 12:24 AM > Paticipating in Prayer Meetings - Talk by Savio Mascarenhas > > 01:25 AM > God's Love - Talk by Dr Silvia Noronha > > 01:50 AM > Grab the Opportunity - Talk by Sr Saral > > 02:00 AM > Saibinnichi Ruzai - Sontosache Mister > > 02:25 AM > Emauscho Rosto - Talk by Orlando D'Souza > > 02:45 AM > Our Father - Spanish > > 02:50 AM > Pope's Video for August 19 > > 02:51 AM > Parish of the Week - Cansaulim > > 03:50 AM > Psalm 91 - Read by Alfwold Silveira > > 03:55 AM > How to Download CCR TV App - Sammy Coelho > > 04:05 AM > Discernment - Talk by Sr Elsis Mathew MSMI > > 05:00 AM > Role of parents in faith formation - Talk by Sr Saral > > 05:23 AM > Tell me a story - Sarah > > 05:37 AM > Concert -Mhozo Tallo Aikat - Senior > > 07:00 AM > Bhajans 5 > > 07:22 AM > Psalms 40 - Read by Alfwold Silveira > > 07:27 AM > Music - Immaculate Conceptio - Victor Da Costa > > 07:30 AM > Music - Vakhann'nni 2 followed by Povitr Atmeak Dispottem Magnnem > > 08:00 AM > Praise and Worship - CCR Camp Old Goa followed by Daily Prayer to the Holy > Spirit > > 08:27 AM > Couples Prayer - English > > 08:30 AM > Saibin Mai - Ines Demello > > 09:00 AM > Announcements > > 09:05 AM > Our Father - Santhali > > 09:10 AM > Share the Good News - Fr Fernando da Costa > > 10:00 AM > Aikotanv - Talk by Orlando D'Souza > > 10:25 AM > Love as Joy - Fr Subhash Anand > > 10:56 AM > Ask Dr Sweezel - Why do I keep getting an ankle sprain even after > Treatment? > > 11:00 AM > Prophetic Intercession 3 - Cyril John > > 11:26 AM > Poem - Holy Land - Janet Mascarenhas > > 11:28 AM > Pope's Video for August 19 > > 11:30 AM > Mass in Konkani followed by Jivitacho Prokas and Saint of the Day > > 12:00 PM > CCR TV visits Xavier Centre of Historical Research > > 12:30 PM > Good News - New Beginning with Gilman D'Costa and Elaine Dias > > 01:15 PM > Bhieum naka - Talk by Victor Mascarenhas > > 01:40 PM > In Conversation with: Sigrid Pfeffer interviewed by Frederick Noronha > > 02:02 PM > Bhurgeanlem Angonn - Bhag 5 > > 02:05 PM > Abundant Life Self Image - Prof Nicholas D'Souza > > 02:45 PM > Ximpientlim Motiam - Bhag 1 - Pall - Fr Pratap Naik sj > > 03:00 PM > Divine Mercy - Konkani 1 > > 03:15 PM > Documentary - Wages of Tears > > 03:55 PM > Song - With Jesus I rock - Avalon Lobo > > 04:00 PM > Rosary - Joyful Mysteries > > 04:24 PM > Reflection on the Gospel - Dominicans > > 04:30 PM > Senior Citizens Exercises - 4 > > 05:00 PM > Tell me a story - Blind leading blind > > 05:23 PM > Ximpientlim Motiam - Bhag 51 - Tibo - Fr Pratap Naik sj > > 05:30 PM > Career Guidance - Shipping and Logistics - MES College > > 06:00 PM > Angelus - English > > 06:02 PM > Literally Goa - Tony Saldanha interviewed by Frederick Noronha > > 06:30 PM > Mass in English followed by Daily Flash > > 07:00 PM > Angelus - Konkani 2 > > 07:02 PM > Prayer of Grandparents - English > > 07:05 PM > Food Quest - Food Engine - Joel Moniz > > 07:30 PM > Saibinnichi Ruzai - Sontosache Mister > > 07:54 PM > Bhokti Lharam - Bhag 1 > > 08:00 PM > Media Track - Eps 6 - 24th August 2019 > > 08:30 PM > The Law and You - Right To Education > > 08:55 PM > Tiatr Song - by Lusiano Rodrigues and Jose de Pedda > > 09:00 PM > Announcements > > 09:05 PM > Hymn - Jezu Jezu - Stanley Severes > > 09:10 PM > Ratchem Magnem > > 09:25 PM > Couples Prayer (Konkani) > > 09:30 PM > Talk on World Health Day - Dr Celina B. Noronha > > 09:52 PM > Bhokti Lharam - Bhag 14 > > 10:00 PM > Concert - Indian Naval Band - Kala Academy > > 11:00 PM > Mass in Konkani followed by Jivitacho Prokas and Saint of the Day > > 11:30 PM > Fuddarache Dive - Joylita Silveira interviewed by Michael Gracias > > Donations may be made to: > Beneficiary name : CCR GOA MEDIA. > Name of Bank : ICICI Bank > Branch Name: Candolim Branch > RTGS/NEFT Code : ICIC0002624 > Savings Bank Account No : 262401000183 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 01:44:18 +0900 > From: Joao Barros-Pereira <joaobarrospere...@gmail.com> > To: goanet <goanet@lists.goanet.org> > Subject: [Goanet] Raindrops Are Fallin? On My Head! > Message-ID: > <CAHg__J5+XgMQ5F=9YC=sPXAzLTNqDD_uROeEb_nNgWxpd3= > b...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Beyond the Grave > > Looking back at: Raindrops Are Fallin? On My Head! > > For the week which passed (17/7/21-14) when I was alive on Planet Earth. > > I used to think Goa had a lot of rain from June to August. But this > year, I?m told, it has been pouring non-stop (like the corruption in > Goa ..?) > > And, of course, the words of the hit song from decades ago when I was > living on Planet Earth was none other than Rain Drops Are Fallin? on > My Head. > > Not just children studying in government schools but big boys and big > girls aka adults might want to sing this song with its catchy tune. > > Of course, I have not forgotten the fact after ten days of heavy > rainfall some of the houses in Panaji - and especially in Mala and > fashionable Fontainhas where the Latin Quarter is a big tourist > attraction - this August it is flooded to the extent a dinghy might be > a good way to get around the city. > > Have the real estate prices dropped in Panaji? > > Some people tell me it costs 80,000 rupees for a square metre. Is this > true? People also have not be able to get water to drink, and tankers > deliver the water to their houses? Is Panaji in a desert? > > Will the land prices also get submerged in the near future? Not only > in Panaji but in all areas, especially areas which were submerged > during the 10-day heavy rainfall period. > > The submerged areas need to be noted carefully and coloured red as a > warning to future buyers. It should be thought of as a kind of public > service to protect people from financial ruin and personal safety. > > The Regional Plan is giving the Environmental Minister a headache, and > more than raindrops are falling on his head. Maybe it is the sky. > > With several village Panchayats led by the dynamic Chicalim Panchayat > donning the cap of captain of the team - and a huge team it is - will > the other 184 panchayats in Goa follow the leader ..? > > These are educated people who want to decide for themselves the future > of their villages, and not allow the government along with the > building and hotel lobbies to destroy Goa. > > Goans, all over Goa, love Goa even though the government does not, and > are not in a mood to listen to any more stories (dictionary meaning: > lies) > > Yes, the people of Goa say loudly, enough is enough. > > And, Mother Nature, which speaks the language of silence but > occasionally makes a point to people who are deaf and blind but mostly > dumb, is saying: here are a few raindrops falling on your head, and > road blocks and big potholes, too, so you get no vegetables for lunch > and dinner, no milk for your children or your chai, no water to wash > at school or at home (forget about taking a bath!) > > Meanwhile please wait for tankers to bring in water of life! At times > like this, difficult and trying times, air conditioning and expensive > cars look more like an ageing and unattractive mistress, and with it a > loss of interest. > > Can?t we Goans take a hint? (some say this is a slap in the face!) But > our politicians are thick skinned and care for no one but people who > fill their coffers with you-know-what. > > Has nationalism taken a hit? Is corruption in Goa even more lethal > than any surgical strike we have seen so far? > > Will people in future - not only tourists - want to reside in the > villages? It is good news for villagers as they can make a good > living. > > Now is the time to make an All Goa Online Homestay program to make it > easy for tourists to make bookings for homestays in villages in Goa. > > The majority of villages fortunately have a lot of topsoil, are not > overbuilt, and have much less problems with polluted water and wells - > with the exception of the infamous case of Calungute and environ. > > MLA Michael Lobo is their representative and wants to become the Chief > Minister. I hope he will succeed as the illegal constructions are a > huge number in the village and have destroyed the village several > times over. > > Now is the time to make your move MLA Michael Lobo and demolish all > the illegal structures which are in the thousands, especially in CRZ. > You will be remembered with gratitude by Goans living today, and > generations to come - yes, the unborn, too. > > MLA Michael Lobo can go down in history if he succeeds as Calungute is > the most polluted village in the whole of Goa today. > > Now, this is a much bigger challenge than garbage management - and you > can do it. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 03:28:08 +0530 > From: V M <vmin...@gmail.com> > To: V M <vmin...@gmail.com> > Subject: [Goanet] Christianity?s Place in the Idea of India (HT, > 23/8/2019) > Message-ID: > <CAN1wPW696Vm0q01UgsE=nvjnyGHxNYv7NTdM3cqCTkWiY6Nu= > w...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > https://www.hindustantimes.com/books/review-carpenters-and-kings-by-siddhartha-sarma-and-the-churches-of-india-by-joanne-taylor/story-Oj0cEgzMcAZCADmTSbZT3K.html > > Amidst India?s ongoing, ruthlessly executed telescoping of political > power into unprecedented dominance for the BJP of Amit Shah and > Narendra Modi, some of the most intriguing sub-plots involve parts of > the country where Christians constitute significant proportions of the > electorate. The most recent relevant episode occurred in high drama > last month in my home state of Goa, when 10 seated Congress MLAs ? > only two were Hindu - decamped en masse to the ruling party. Now, 15 > of the 27 members of the state legislature representing the supposed > ?saffron party? are from the 25% Catholic minority population. > > Such scenarios appear outlandish for those accustomed to easily > comprehensible dualities. But not so much in India, which continues to > confound any simplistic cultural, social or political calculus. Yet, > as Siddhartha Sarma writes in his engaging, impressive new book, ?an > attempt is being made to create an idea of India which has never > existed. This ersatz India is based on the denial of legitimacy to > faiths such as Christianity and Islam. As this book shows, this is not > a new idea, and has been tried before in other parts of the world. But > wherever?the core principles of a society, such as the natural > multiculturalism of Indians, are at odds with such revisionism, these > attempts have either failed or caused catastrophic and irreversible > discord within the society or faith. The Hindu Right can only pursue > its policy of bigotry and revisionism at the peril of India.? > > Sarma has wide-ranging authorial preoccupations. On my shelves are his > Sahitya Akademi Bal Puruskar ?winning 2009 novel ?The Grasshopper?s > Run?, set during the epochal Japanese assault on the Naga hills during > WWII, as well as the rather funny ?East of the Sun: A Nearly-Stoned > Walk Down the Road in a Different Land? describing a 2008 road trip > through Assam, Nagaland and Manipur into Myanmar. Last year, he > published ?Year of the Weeds? based on Odisha?s Niyamgiri flashpoint, > when Dongria Kondh Adivasis battled against mining giant Vedanta. The > new ?Carpenters and Kings: Western Christianity and the Idea of India? > is another leap altogether, an idiosyncratic deep dive into the early > history of Christianity, pursued with great attention to detail, > citing 44 primary sources in several different languages (Persian! > Latin!) and another 89 secondary readings. > > We don?t have enough books like this, diligently reconsidering > important aspects of world history with an eye for implications to the > subcontinent. Some good examples exist for the 20thcentury, notably > Raghu Karnad?s superb ?Farthest Field: An Indian Story of the Second > World War?, but no one has undertaken anything quite like Sarma in > this bravura investigation of the cultural history of the Silk Roads > networks between the Mediterranean Sea and China, with an emphasis on > the traffic in Christianity to India. It is a compelling account of > ancient interconnections, starting from 483 BCE when ?an Indian > contingent of bowmen, clad in cotton clothes and armed with reed bows > and iron-tipped arrows, was present with Nubians, Scythians, > Egyptians, Persians, Judeans and Phoenicians at Thermopylae during the > invasion of Greece.? > > Sarma possesses boundless enthusiasm for antiquity?s minutiae, > dwelling with glee on Arianism and Nestorians, Manicheanism (whose > third-century Iranian prophet-founder is known to have travelled in > India) and the astonishing tale of Barlaam and Josephat, which leaped > from Mahayana Buddhist stories about Siddhartha Gautama ( in Sanskrit) > to Arab Muslim tradition (via the 8thcentury ?Kitab Bilawhar > wa-Yudasaf?) into the official doctrine of the Catholic Church. By the > 16thcentury, when Vasco da Gama rounded the Cape of Good Hope heading > to Calicut, ?there was hardly a European of passing scholarship who > would not associate India with Barlaam and Josaphat, and there was > considerable curiosity about what the Indians themselves had to say > about their most famous saints.? > > Most of ?Carpenters and Kings? dwells on pre-colonial times, before > Portuguese, British, American (and sundry other western) missionaries > set about evangelizing different parts of the subcontinent. This > inevitably leaves out major aspects of India?s contemporary Christian > landscape (such as the tactical voluntary collective conversions of > the huge majority of citizens of Nagaland, Mizoram and Meghalaya). But > that?s understandable given Sarma?s goal, ?the treatment of > Christianity in India has remained problematic. As the political > climate changes, as the Hindu Right extends its political dominance > into the intellectual sphere, and as revisionism becomes a key tool > for reimagining Indian history through a very narrow nativist and > bigoted lens, it has become increasingly necessary to examine the > history of Christianity in India and to set the record straight.? > > If much of Sarma?s endeavour is bringing Christianity?s hidden > histories to light, Joanne Taylor?s breezy illustrated survey ?The > Churches of India? showcases the religion?s most obvious legacy ? its > built heritage. This is avowedly an impressionistic book, about which > the author writes, ?It would be impossible to record all of India?s > churches. The goal here has been to present a diverse collection.? > Still, here the absence of the North East?s wildly flourishing church > cultures is even more glaring, with the only mention a rather dubious > and borderline offensive description of Nagaland as ?a remote tribal > state.? > > Nonetheless, despite the limited focus on Kerala and Goa (roughly half > the book?s contents) and the Raj-derived cities of Chennai, Bengaluru, > Kolkata, Mumbai and New Delhi (there are also snippets from Puducherry > and Chandannagar in former French India), there?s much of interest in > Taylor?s selections. I appreciated her inclusion of Charles Correa?s > challenging 1970s era ?Portuguese Church? in Mumbai, and especially > enjoyed her portrait of Chennai?s ?Queen of Scottish Churches in the > East? - ?The Kirk? of St. Andrews - which stands witness to a > once-massive presence, ?by 1792 approximately one in nine Scots were > employed by the British East India Company, a third of its officers in > India were Scots and one in eleven of its soldiers too. During the > 18thand 19thcenturies Scots were also deeply involved in many ways > including trade, manufacturing, and the founding of railways > throughout India.? > > Taken together, Sarma?s inquiries and Taylor?s homages outline an > Indian Christian landscape as rooted and diverse as any other aspect > of subcontinental heritage. ?Carpenters and Kings? concludes in > stirring language, ?The Hindu Right?s idea of India is based on the > fondly nurtured fiction that there was a single identifiable entity > called India at some point in the past, and this entity was Hindu in > faith and created solely by ?indigenous people. No civilization has > been built by the people of a land in isolation. The strongest, most > enduring cultures have been those which have internalized ideas from > elsewhere, being enriched in the process. India has always been > connected to the East and the West, and there were always people and > ideas arriving in the subcontinent to contribute in small and large > measures. Christianity, which has been here for 2000 years, is as > Indian a religion as any other?This has never been a land for a single > people, or culture, or religion. No community has ever been exiled > from the subcontinent at any point. No people have been delegitimized > or have had their history here denied. If the Hindu Right succeeds in > doing this, it might arrive at its own perverted idea of India. But it > would not be what India truly is, and has always been. > > > End of Goanet Digest, Vol 14, Issue 493 > *************************************** >