Re: [Goanet] Goan Identity or Culture (GIC)

2008-04-07 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
Hi Antonio, Thank you for providing your definition of culture. Your perspective is one of many approved by the dictionary. As you read from my last post on this thread, our two definitions of "Culture" are very different. Your kind response to my reply (see below) displays your sophistica

Re: [Goanet] Goan Identity or Culture (GIC)

2008-04-06 Thread CORNEL DACOSTA
Hi Santosh I too found the definition from Gilbert, attributed to Schein on Identity OR Culture higly questionable. Minimally, the concepts of identity and of culture are not the same by any stretch of the imagination. Further, to lump them together as a collective element is sheer nonsense in my

[Goanet] Goan Identity or Culture (GIC)

2008-04-05 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
Hi Cornel, At the outset let me state, what you have written below about my views is a total mis-characterization of my writings on social culture in general and Goan culture in particular. Clearly we are not talking the same thing. This was my reason for previously ending my dialog with you

Re: [Goanet] Goan Identity or Culture (GIC)

2008-04-04 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
Since Cornell brought my name into the dialog, I thought I would respond. But I should first reply to Antonio's post. Something tells me that Antonio Menezes, whom I have not had the privilege to dialog with, is a very intelligent person. Unfortunately there is very little in his post that

[Goanet] Goan Identity or Culture (GIC)

2008-03-31 Thread Philip Thomas
[Selma] I wiuld not agree that preserving and molding culture is impossible. Maybe challenging. But obviously something must be going on in some sort of long term selection process for them to emerge in a recognisable and distinctive form! The trick may be to identify those critical strands --- r

Re: [Goanet] Goan Identity or Culture (GIC)

2008-03-30 Thread Carvalho
> > Antonio Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Goan identity or culture that some Goans are > obsessed with could best > be understood if we try to define it. --- Outside the borders of Goa, I have never come across such wide discussions about identity. Why ar

Re: [Goanet] Goan Identity or Culture (GIC)

2008-03-30 Thread CORNEL DACOSTA
Hi Antonio I humbly suggest that the problem with Gilbert Lawrence's posts re Goan identity is his highly simplistic assumption that everyone once knew his/her hierarchical place in Goan (presumably Christian) society and that this should be embedded and continued. With much respect, this is a

[Goanet] Goan Identity or Culture (GIC)

2008-03-30 Thread Antonio Menezes
The Goan identity or culture that some Goans are obsessed with could best be understood if we try to define it. And definition of Gic is definitely not an easy proposition. However, a beginning can be made if we place a few facts before us. Gic as we know it today did not exist before 1510 and