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Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:56:30 +0530
From: "Sandeep Heble"
In her essay "The Algebra of Infinite Justice" Roy talks about the
policies of the United States and how it uses war and policies to
promote the "American way of life". She starts by pointing out that
even the name of this war "Operation
I would not want to wade into this discussion, but felt like posting these
pagages that I recently came across accidentally.
Eugene
--
The Biblical definition of Atheism
To walk in the futility of your mind, having your understanding darkened, being
alienated from the life of God, because of t
Edward de Silva wrote on Goanet:
>>ARE WE SAYING GOD SUCKS OR RELIGION SUCKS?
>>My conclusion is that Samir and you have meant (sorry, assume to say)
>>'Religion sucks'.
---
My Response:
To make my point
2:49 +0530
From: "Frederick \"FN\" Noronha"
Subject: Re: [Goanet] God Sucks
Message-ID:
<8ea78e010812280922r5dc814a7sa3d6edbfb9253...@mail.gmail.com>
Can I rephrase the questions below... one could understand different things:
2008/12/28 Gilbert Lawrence
1. Has the
Hi Sandeep,
No 3. is interesting.
ARE WE SAYING GOD SUCKS OR RELIGION SUCKS? (only the illiterate and those
easily brainwashed say Gods are different).
Discarding Religion is possible but not God.
Therefore if Religion sucks I agree with you, but not God.
Once upon a time white people said African
-Original Message-
From: edward desilva
> Hi Bosco,
> Are we talking about God or different religions, according
> to their beliefs in God.
> There is a question raised, if Qur'an is the word of God,
> in what language was it written in.
> If one says Arabic, Arabic language did no
Even though I made myself quite clear that the word "oxymoron" was
used quite liberally to depict some kind of a self-contradiction,
Miguel and Mario continue to keep this childish game go on. This is my
last response to them on my usage of this term, as I have neither the
time nor the inclination
--- On Sun, 12/28/08, Gilbert Lawrence wrote:
> Problems that are seen today were not
> seen / heard a century ago e.g. organ transplant,
Gilbert is right. Just last week, an organ was being transplanted from the
Moira church to the Aldona church. Since people from Moira were tasked with the
t
Hi Bosco,
Are we talking about God or different religions, according to their beliefs in
God.
There is a question raised, if Qur'an is the word of God, in what language was
it written in.
If one says Arabic, Arabic language did not exist during Muhammad's days.
Gods words in Gods language - what
Can I rephrase the questions below... one could understand different things:
2008/12/28 Gilbert Lawrence
>
>
> 1. Has the concept of God benefited humanity or has it harmed humanity?
> 2. Is religion in its present form good or bad?
> 3. Should the concepts of God and religion be improved or do t
Miguel Braganza wrote on Goanet:
> OXYMORON is "putting together words which seem to contradict each
> other" according to the OXFORD dictionary. "Bitter-sweet" is one
> example. I do not know if "God Sucks" qualifies as an oxymoron.
Mario responds:
If you taste some of my cuisine you will real
quot;.
Sandeep Heble is subscribed to GX. I think Floriano Lobo , too. Others are
welcome .unless we want to make Goanet a bootleg GX !!
Mog asundi
Miguel
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:35:25 +0530
From: "floriano"
Subject: Re: [Goanet] God sucks
Message-ID: <3cfdd79caa9749b78d694c0
Hi Sandeep,
Your remarks are very apropo. Your general remarks (copied below) have been
repeated ad nausea; sadly with little to show. Your questions are pertinent.
My perspectives follow them.
1. Has the concept of God benefited humanity or has it harmed humanity?
The concept of God benefits
le"
To:
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 10:14 AM
Subject: [Goanet] God sucks
Mario writes:
"Perhaps you have misunderstood how a forum works. Samir gets to say
whatever he wants. Others then get
Sandeep Heble said:
For those who want to hear only good stuff written about God or religion, my
sincere advice to them is to please go to the Temple orthe Mosque or the
Church. In this forum, you may hear a lot of things that you would not like to.
Reply:
It is one thing to say your God may suck
Mario writes:
"Perhaps you have misunderstood how a forum works. Samir gets to say
whatever he wants. Others then get to say whatever they want."
-
My response:
Exactly! But constant crying and c
--- In goenchimxapo...@yahoogroups.com, "Sandeep Heble"
wrote:
>
> So what's the problem in that? Those who propagate religious
> ideologies constantly hurt the scientific and rational sentiments
>of the atheists and the non-believers. Will the preachers stop
> propagating their beliefs on a Scien
ntertains it ad nauseam, subscribe to the unmoderated
"Goenchim Xapotam". Save Goanet from becoming another GX, since the Moderators
obviously lack the will do prevent this. I will try as long as I am subscribed.
Mog asundi
Miguel
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:11:10 +0530
From: "Sandeep
We have had several responses on this thread, sometimes from the same
individuals, some articulating their thoughts lucidly, others
unintelligibly. While I have no intention to enter the discussion per se, it
is often observed that issues/comments/reports regarding religion and/or God
strike a
Mario writes:
> "Nice try, Sandeep. After calling him some kind of
> moron, now you want to make up presumptions out of whole cloth to get
> him off the hook:-))"
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 09:43:31 +0530
From: "Sandeep Heble"
Wrong. I have made my presumptions on the basis of what he has
consiste
Most of the problems in this world have been caused by people who have
committed the fundamental sin of "Radical Interpretations", whether it
is in respect of passages or Gods as portrayed in our scriptures, or
Hussain's paintings, or Novels, Cartoons, etc.
As a writer who has liberally played aro
band Dr. Samir Kelekar, Ph. D [of the Dayanand's IT
Corp of Goa fame] who seems to be drunk on a non-alcohilic fruit punch
...perhaps one that got fermented before he drank it.
Mog asundi
Miguel
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:17:08 -0800 (PST)
From: Mario Goveia
Subject: [Goanet] God sucks
Mario writes: "Nice try, Sandeep. After calling him some kind of
moron, now you want to make up presumptions out of whole cloth to get
him off the hook:-))"
My response:
Wrong. I have made my presumptions on the basis of what he has
consistently written over the years, about God in different foru
Hi Sandeep,
Samir said:-(But then, if there is one thing in short supply in this world, it
is 'thinking'. Samir)
(My post was in response to the long discussion that was going on
aboutconversions, hence the timing.Samir).
(I would consider the derogratorywords to denigrate non-Goans by calling th
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:24:47 +0530
From: "Sandeep Heble"
Samir's post, if read literally, will be a kind of an oxymoron,
Mario responds:
Now, now, Sandeep. There's no need to start responding to Samir's gratuitous
insulting post by calling him names:-))
Sandeep wrote:
What I presume he m
From: "edward desilva"
Hi,
Funny that.
Samir Kelekar wouldn't come with that sort of propaganda against God, during
Ganesh or Lakshmi Puja!
One sided opinionated people, why are they encouraged on Goanet?
Dear Goanetters, I was shocked and saddened to see such words
appear on Goan
Samir's post, if read literally, will be a kind of an oxymoron, for
being an atheist he does not really believe in God. So it would be
foolish of him if he were to really mean that "something that does not
exist" sucks.
What I presume he means, and this is in consistency with what he has
always sa
Edward writes:
>Funny that.
>Samir Kelekar wouldn't come with that sort of propaganda against God, during
>>Ganesh or Lakshmi Puja!
>One sided opinionated people, why are they encouraged on Goanet?
Ha ha ha. Now see we see the real face of God coming from Edward.
Communalism.
Edward, feel free t
Hi,
Funny that.
Samir Kelekar wouldn't come with that sort of propaganda against God, during
Ganesh or Lakshmi Puja!
One sided opinionated people, why are they encouraged on Goanet?
Dear Goanetters, I was shocked and saddened to see such words
appear on Goanet in the context of God es
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:34:41 -0800 (PST)
From: Samir Kelekar
> Be used to criticism of religion/God. It is basically the intolerance
> of criticism of one's religion that leads people to violence.
>
> Anyway, God is fiction in the first place.
>
> regards,
> Samir, an atheist
Mario observes:
be with you. Sam, you are OK.
Cheers
floriano
goasuraj
- Original Message -
From: "Samir Kelekar"
To: "'Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!'" ;
"Gulf International Promotions"
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet
Dear Goanetters,
I was shocked and saddened to see such words appear on Goanet in the
context of God especially on the eve of His Son birthday.
I am sure almost all decent Goans will also be repulsed by such
language.
Warm regards,
John D'Souza
Moderator
Only God can help such a person..
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Samir Kelekar wrote:
> Title said it all.
>
> regards,
> Samir
>
>
>
>
>
#x27;s premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!'; Gulf International
Promotions
Subject: RE: [Goanet] God sucks
Hi Gipsport:
Be used to criticism of religion/God. It is basically the intolerance
of criticism of one's religion that leads people to violence.
Anyway, God is fiction in the first p
Mario writes
"Why such language?"
Mario, you can adorn it as beautiful language as you wish, but the point
I am trying to make is let us get used to criticising our Gods and not
treat them as beyond criticism. That is the best way to make people
tolerant.
samir
Samir,
How are you?
Why such language?
Regards
Mario
> > -Original Message-> From: goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org>
> > [mailto:goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org] On Behalf Of Samir Kelekar> Sent:
> > 23 December 2008 06:47> To: goanet@lists.goa
om: Gulf International Promotions
> Subject: RE: [Goanet] God sucks
> To: samir_kele...@yahoo.com, "'Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!'"
>
> Date: Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 1:42 PM
> I SERIOUSLY advise that these type of emails should NOT be
> p
Subject: [Goanet] God sucks
Title said it all.
regards,
Samir
Title said it all.
regards,
Samir
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