[Goanet] June 18 -- Let the Revolution Begin

2008-06-17 Thread Eugene Correia
Goa has been commemorating June 18 as the Revolution Day since its Liberation. The day was the turning point in Goa's freedom struggle. Whenever I pass the now-named Lohia Maidan in Margao, I stand and imagine what may have been the scene that fateful day when Ram Manohar Lohia was arrested alon

[Goanet] June 18-- Let the Revolution Begin

2008-06-24 Thread J. Colaco < jc>
Eugene Correia wrote to Paulo: 1: What I said about Telo may have never come back on Indian soil, was a deliberate attempt to annoy you and JC. But if that line made you go LOL it served its purpose. 2: The good doctor said that Lohia did not speak at Margoa. Lohia began his speech and after d

[Goanet] June 18-- Let the Revolution Begin

2008-06-27 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
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Re: [Goanet] June 18 -- Let the Revolution Begin

2008-06-18 Thread Eugene Correia
Once again I write from memory and tidbits from some notes, so corrections are welcome. I would like to add to the debate but not necessarily take up Dr. Colaco's points. However, I must concede that some fnoted reedom fighters suddenly saw that things were not rosy for them and hence they ran a

Re: [Goanet] June 18 -- Let the Revolution Begin

2008-06-18 Thread Eugene Correia
Well, yes Telo was charged with bigamy. For that he got what 10 to 12 years in jail? Historical data has shown how the Portuguese worked against the nationalists. I am not sure but I think Telo, on his return, was bypassed for the supervisor's post in All-India Radio, Delhi and the post given it

Re: [Goanet] June 18 -- Let the Revolution Begin

2008-06-19 Thread Miguel Braganza
FF pension of the day ...and their wages are deducted for non-working days! "Oh! Brother, do you remember: 18th June?" Mog asundi. Miguel Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:48:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Eugene Correia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Goanet] June 18 -- Let the Revolution Begi

Re: [Goanet] June 18 -- Let the Revolution Begin

2008-06-20 Thread Eugene Correia
I sent a post in reply to Miguel's post before reading Fred's post. So, the Telo's bio makes it clear that he had "divorced" his first wife and later married Elsa. So, waa the bigamy charge technically right or was it proved in Portuguese court that the divorce never legally took place? In my po

Re: [Goanet] June 18 -- Let the Revolution Begin

2008-06-20 Thread Eugene Correia
Dear Minguel, Sad to know that the point I made escaped your attention. I said that some noted freedom fighters left India. It was as a sidelight that I mentioned Telo wanted to leave India and how his so-called friend betrayed him. I would like to know further if Telo was, in fact, married to

Re: [Goanet] June 18 -- Let the Revolution Begin

2008-06-20 Thread Paulo Colaco Dias
age- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:goanet- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eugene Correia > Sent: 20 June 2008 07:20 > To: goanet@lists.goanet.org > Subject: Re: [Goanet] June 18 -- Let the Revolution Begin > > Dear Minguel, > > Sad to know that the point I made

Re: [Goanet] June 18 -- Let the Revolution Begin

2008-06-20 Thread Miguel Braganza
like Dilkush Desai or Ramakant Khalap. He is already suffering hallucinations and calling a former teacher, with an M.Phil in Latin American studies from Goa University, a Naxalite. Mog asundi Miguel Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:33:02 +0100 From: "Paulo Colaco Dias" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [Goanet] June 18- Let the Revolution Begin

2008-06-21 Thread Eugene Correia
Miguel, again you have missed the point. It was not me but JC who raised the issue obliquely and then I said that I know that Telo was charged with bigamy. The book perhaps tells how long Telo was sentenced. If not for Indian government's intervention, he would not have been back on Indian soil.

Re: [Goanet] June 18- Let the Revolution Begin

2008-06-21 Thread J. Colaco < jc>
Eugene Correia: 1: Telo was NOT happy that the Indian government that instead of him being made the "supervisor" of the Portuguese section of AIR, Nehru prevered Laxmanrao Sardesai. 2: JC likes to "tease". He should give us the gist of the conversation with Telo. But then to ask in the same manne

Re: [Goanet] June 18- Let the Revolution Begin

2008-06-22 Thread Paulo Colaco Dias
o -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eugene Correia Sent: 21 June 2008 11:54 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] June 18- Let the Revolution Begin Miguel, again you have missed the point. It was not me but JC who raised the issue ob

Re: [Goanet] June 18- Let the Revolution Begin

2008-06-22 Thread J. Colaco < jc>
Paulo Colaco Dias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [1] I find laughable Eugene's claim [2] And can Eugene be sure of this? [3] Eugene's claim is ridiculous. [4] Where are the facts in Eugene's claim? = jc's response: Paulo my friend, You are being absolutely unfair. You really expect Eugene to b

Re: [Goanet] June 18-- Let the Revolution Begin

2008-06-24 Thread Eugene Correia
Paulo, did you hear of the term "hyperbole." What I said about Telo may have never come back on Indian soil, was a deliberate attempt to annoy you and JC. But if that line made you go LOL it served its purpose. The good doctor said that Lohia did not speak at Margoa. Lohia began his speech and a

Re: [Goanet] June 18-- Let the Revolution Begin

2008-06-24 Thread Paulo Colaco Dias
putation. Best Paulo. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eugene Correia Sent: 24 June 2008 11:59 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] June 18-- Let the Revolution Begin Paulo, did you hear of the term "hyperbole." What I

Re: [Goanet] June 18-- Let the Revolution Begin

2008-06-27 Thread Paulo Colaco Dias
Paulo Colaco Dias. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gilbert Lawrence Sent: 27 June 2008 01:04 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] June 18-- Let the Revolution Begin Related threads and discussions on Telo were "Hyperbole -

Re: [Goanet] June 18-- Let the Revolution Begin

2008-07-01 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:32:16 +0100 From: "Paulo Colaco Dias" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > It is a fact that Goa was colonised by Portugal. It is also a fact that the Supreme Court of India determined that the Indian Union acquired the Portuguese State of India on the 19th Dec. 1961 by an act of conques

Re: [Goanet] June 18-- Let the Revolution Begin

2008-07-01 Thread Paulo Colaco Dias
June 2008 16:03 To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] June 18-- Let the Revolution Begin >Hey, Paulo. My family was on the opposite side of >this battle from yours. We won. We feel liberated >because we did not want to be ruled by white >Europeans. You lost. Get ove

Re: [Goanet] June 18-- Let the Revolution Begin

2008-07-01 Thread Chris Vaz
xists for their claim for reparations or restitution. Q.E.D. Brilliant, Mario, absolutely brilliant! Chris - Original Message - From: "Mario Goveia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] June 18-- Let the Revolution Begin

Re: [Goanet] June 18-- Let the Revolution Begin

2008-07-01 Thread J. Colaco < jc>
Paulo wrote: 1: Mario, you and others fail to understand what the real Goan issue is all about. 2: Goa should not be ruled by anyone...The Pakistanis were also ethnical Indian but they chose not to be ruled by India. 3: Goa never belonged to the Republic of India ..The Republic of India * did not

Re: [Goanet] June 18-- Let the Revolution Begin

2008-07-01 Thread CORNEL DACOSTA
To whom it may concern: 1. Hundreds of collaborative peace movements across the globe between Palestinians and Israelis see the issue in a humanistic way. Suggest one minimally looks at: www.mideastpeaceforum to start with. Google can be quite useful in this respect. 2. I disagree with Paulo abou

Re: [Goanet] June 18-- Let the Revolution Begin

2008-07-02 Thread J. Colaco < jc>
CORNEL DACOSTA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 1: I disagree with Paulo about his interpretation that India had no right to Goa. Paulo's position, and some others is that, India was not a political entity when the Portuguese conquered Goa. This point is perhaps true although India was a geographical entity.

Re: [Goanet] June 18-- Let the Revolution Begin

2008-07-02 Thread Mario Goveia
> Mario wrote: >> > Hey, Paulo. My family was on the opposite side of > this battle from yours. We won. We feel liberated > because we did not want to be ruled by white > Europeans. You lost. Get over it. >> Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 10:17:38 -0400 From: Chris Vaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > By this re

Re: [Goanet] June 18-- Let the Revolution Begin

2008-07-02 Thread Mario Goveia
Paulo wrote: > 1: Mario, you and others fail to understand what the real Goan issue is all about. > Mario responds: > Hey, Paulo. I thought you said I won the bike?:-)) > Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 09:10:29 -0400 From: "J. Colaco < jc>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Surely Mario and his ilk do not know that th

Re: [Goanet] June 18-- Let the Revolution Begin

2008-07-02 Thread Chris Vaz
ing polite :--)) And I have most of the African leadership -- and my fellow dictator-in-chief Hosni Mubarak as my supporter ! Cheers! Chris - Original Message - From: "Mario Goveia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [G

Re: [Goanet] June 18 -- Let the Revolution Begin - really?

2008-06-18 Thread J. Colaco < jc>
Eugene Correia wrote: (1) Once again I write from memory and tidbits from some notes, so corrections are welcome. (2) I would like to add to the debate but not necessarily take up Dr. Colaco's points. (3) However, I must concede that some fnoted reedom fighters suddenly saw that things were not

Re: [Goanet] June 18-- Let the Revolution Begin - more manufacturing

2008-06-28 Thread J. Colaco < jc>
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