[Goanet] The Inquisition (Spanish)... two views

2021-09-12 Thread Frederick Noronha
How Bad was the Spanish Inquisition? (Short Animated Documentary) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrjbtvKfPFk Timewatch: The Myth of the Spanish Inquisition (1994) BBC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CY-pS6iLFuc&t=115s ᐧ

[Goanet] The Inquisition & SFX And The Trade In KILWA

2019-12-08 Thread Adolfo Mascarenhas
Part II Last Friday in tasic Message was *Did SFX torture and force Hindus, Early Christians and Moslem to became Catholics? Was he the *Grand Inquisitor. NO! NO ! Perhaps the Dominicans SFX preached the Gospel, cared for the sick. He was a linguist. He suffered a lot during his travels. D

Re: [Goanet] The Inquisition Lore

2015-04-01 Thread Adrian Simoes
Dearest Gilbert, Blessings! Thank you so much for your valuable inputs. Our Trust is definitely focused to research, collect and assemble hidden facts, as well as segregate distorted facts as presented in today's day and age. We would definitely love to share notes on the subjects, and together ta

Re: [Goanet] The Inquisition Lore

2015-04-01 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
Adrian Simoes wrote: Managing Director; The Judeo-Christian Heritage of the West Coast of India. Panjim - Goa it was just a "holy purging", 3000 Jews including Garcia de Orta's sister being killed in Ela, Old Goa was an exaggeration! Was it? GL Responds: Yes!  What you have quoted above is a g

[Goanet] The Inquisition Lore

2015-03-30 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
Santosh Helekar writes: Priolkar's book relies naturally on secondary sources. But it was well-received by eminent historians such as C. R. Boxer. Regarding Dellon and Buchanan, I should have said that they are eyewitness accounts rather than well-researched. No independent facts contradict what

[Goanet] The Inquisition Lore

2015-03-29 Thread Gabe Menezes
By Frederick Noronha It's 2012 and Vincent and Martha are falling "instantly in love with Goa". Four sentences into Ashwin Sanghi's The Rozabal Line (Westland, 2008), we encounter the Inquisition. Predictable? Like few others, the Inquisition motif is one which comes up repeatedly in writing on G

[Goanet] THE INQUISITION LORE

2015-03-29 Thread Francisco Colaco
The "Inquisition Lore" in today's "Navhind Times' Panorama" written by the great writer, journalist and book publisher Mr. Frederick Noronha is an excellent article. It is an appropriate commentary to various writings on Inquisition and touches on contentious statements and nails the terrible l

Re: [Goanet] The Inquisition

2009-06-25 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Mon, 6/22/09, Mario Goveia wrote: > > I looked in vain in for any evidence that the Inquisition > had anything to do with Christians being attacked in India > the last couple of years, or to support Gilbert's assertion, > "More Christians likely were killed for their religion in > those ep

Re: [Goanet] The Inquisition

2009-06-23 Thread Mario Goveia
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:34:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Gilbert Lawrence Not long ago, a poster from Holland wrote to me privately requesting information on the inquisition in Goa. I asked the poster if she had researched the atrocities of the Dutch in its colonies; of which we only know only a lit

Re: [Goanet] The Inquisition Trinity

2009-06-21 Thread Santosh Helekar
In the post appended below, Gilbert has deliberately distorted my earlier post in this thread. He has cherry-picked sentences and truncated them around his own name to make himself the center of attention. After intentionally excising the facts that I had provided in that post he is comically a

[Goanet] The Inquisition Trinity

2009-06-21 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
The topic of this thread as clearly seen from its title is Inquisition and the 'Trinity'. To help Santosh, his post should have been, "I disagree with Gilbert's post on several fronts"... and then go on to post his own set of facts and information. Please add to this discussion with facts (if you

Re: [Goanet] The Inquisition

2009-06-21 Thread Santosh Helekar
The following post of Gilbert contains inane falsehoods. Without knowing, understanding or remembering anything about what Fr. Basilio Monteiro and I have read and written, he is fabricating imaginary nonsense or confabulating from his failing memory. Basilio will likely ignore his garbage. Bu

[Goanet] The Inquisition

2009-06-21 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
My first interest in this topic started with the many Inquisition posts on Goanet, mostly  by Goan Catholics. But as a history buff, most of what I read were pontificating opinions with very little hard data - nature of crimes, number of victims, quotes of contemporary writers, etc etc. So clear

Re: [Goanet] The Inquisition

2009-06-21 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक न ोरोन्या
Again, some difference of opinion How should the current-day Goan position himself/herself vis a vis the rivalries of the past (which have, in significant measure, lead to the building of the Black Legend about Portuguese Goa, the Inquisition in Goa, etc)? I would not see things in terms of T

Re: [Goanet] The Inquisition

2009-06-20 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
Not long ago, a poster from Holland wrote to me privately requesting information on the inquisition in Goa. I asked the poster if she had researched the atrocities of the Dutch in its colonies; of which we only know only a little, when we read about Fr. Joseph Vaz in Ceylon. She declined to con

Re: [Goanet] The Inquisition Trinity

2009-06-20 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- On Sat, 6/20/09, Gilbert Lawrence wrote: > > It is nice to know that the members of the 'The Inquisition > Trinity' named by Fred, none of them is a historian. > Yet individuals who condemned my writings were > referring (without reading) the writings of these > individuals whom Fred gave a 

Re: [Goanet] The Inquisition Trinity

2009-06-20 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक न ोरोन्या
2009/6/20 Gilbert Lawrence > By selecting the title as "Trinity", likely Fred > was constrained to refer to only three names > often quoted by the Goa-Inquisition bashers. > However if one surfs the web for the hate-Goa > (specially hate-Christian) sites, one > encounters several other names exclu

[Goanet] The Inquisition Trinity

2009-06-20 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
By selecting the title as "Trinity", likely Fred was constrained to refer to only three names often quoted by the Goa-Inquisition bashers. However if one surfs the web for the hate-Goa (specially hate-Christian) sites, one encounters several other names excluded from "The Inquisition trinity". A

[Goanet] The Inquisition trinity

2009-06-17 Thread Frederick "FN" Noronha
I've long wondered over the identity and ideology of a small set of people who have shaped the globe's understanding of the Goa Inquisition. Recently, coming across more critical views[1] that challenges our traditional understanding of the Inquisition only made one more puzzled. About Anant Kakba

[Goanet] The Inquisition... another point of view

2009-06-17 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
I have always been intrigued why Goans, and I include intelligent Goans (Catholic and Hindus), have a difficult time with the Goan Inquisition. I had my own theory for their difficulty to understand the Inquisition. Yet, this was well articulated by Prof Thomas Madden, in the article posted on t

[Goanet] The Inquisition... another point of view

2009-06-17 Thread mgoveia
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:47:54 +0530 From: "Frederick \"FN\" Noronha" >From a Conservative journal, but raises some interesting issues here. FN June 18, 2004, 10:26 a.m. The Real Inquisition Investigating the popular myth. By Thomas F. Madden Excerpt: The Inquisition was not born out of des

Re: [Goanet] The Inquisition

2009-06-17 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक न ोरोन्या
2009/6/17 Gilbert Lawrence Thanks for allowing me to share my thoughts with you. I find Fred's > question interesting - "Can anyone > enlighten about the ideologies and interests of the repeated-cited authors of > the Goa Inquisition?"  I > hope the authors can be upfront in responding to this q

Re: [Goanet] The Inquisition

2009-06-16 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
Hi Maurice and Fred, Hope you did not mind my comments to your post on Goanet.  I have not followed all tit-bits of information on the Inquisition in Europe; as I follow regarding the same history in Goa. Yet from the little I know, long before the Inquisition was introduced in Europe, there

[Goanet] The Inquisition... another point of view

2009-06-16 Thread Frederick "FN" Noronha
>From a Conservative journal, but raises some interesting issues here. FN June 18, 2004, 10:26 a.m. The Real Inquisition Investigating the popular myth. By Thomas F. Madden When the sins of the Catholic Church are recited (as they so often are) the Inquisition figures prominently. People with no

[Goanet] The Inquisition...

2009-06-16 Thread Frederick "FN" Noronha
I sometimes suspect that the term "Inquisition" is played up by a set of interests who would like to create a contemporary Inquisition -- this time based on political interest, and communal ideologies. We know the Dutch created a "black legend" about their colonial (and other) rivals, the Spanish

[Goanet] The Inquisition in Goa

2009-06-15 Thread Sandeep Heble
For those interested in this area, there are many Inquisition and other related books at the link below: http://www.rbookshop.com/religion/i/Inquisition/Inquisition_Books_R.htm The Goa Inquisition may possibly feature in some of them. regards Sandeep

[Goanet] The Inquisition in Goa

2009-06-14 Thread Roland Francis
Now that Sapna Shahani has stirred the soup on the Goan Inquisition, I like many others would like to know what the contents of the soup really are. Sapna I am sure will benefit from this too. I have read from time to time excerpts, posts, articles and short stories on the Inquistion in Goa. How m