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FEEL FLOWS How different are early mornings in Goa, from early mornings in Delhi? FIRST CITY finds out the answer in the unlikeliest of places; in our exclusive fashion feature, in an interview with Wendell Rodricks. Where there's talk of darzis, Coco Chanel, the importance of green tea, several digressions, and looking back at iconic moments in fashion One of his all-time favourite images is of Malaika on a banyan tree, Wendell's outfit draped on her, flowing and fluid, one with the roots, in harmony with nature and the universe. A vision of peace, that black and white. "Today, I feel, I can stand by the side of Karl Lagerfeld or Jean Paul Gautier, and I can say, 'Listen, what you guys do is great and I love it, but what I do is mine, it comes from me. It's my creation, my statement, my legacy and contribution to this country. It's not derived and it's Indian..." More to the point, "It's Goan." He lives in Colvale, a remote village in south Goa, in a yellow ("symbolises the sun") and blue ("the skies... traditionally, these are the Goan colours for houses") heritage villa, where his three dogs and two cats get along better than the best of friends. The only difference is that Napoleon, Zanzibar and Eva greet you at the door, excited, tails wagging, while Tiger and Vircat emerge from the corners somewhere to observe you and lick their paws. The neighbour's rooster and bird-calls (Wendell's carefully planted trees offer them fruit) take care of background ear candy. His office and studio is in Panjim, 20 kilometres away (which takes less than 30 minutes to drive to), which houses his creations, and from where Wendell Rodricks projects to the world. To Bombay and Delhi and Paris and New York: a quiet, relaxed, gradual global take-over of sorts. "I like to put this resort flavour into my clothes. The country never had this breezy feel in fashion, and we use it intentionally, till today. If we can make the garment more fluid, lighter, more referral to where it's coming from, from Goa, we do it. We do it consciously." He owes this USP to a moment of critical appreciation at Yves St Laurent, several years ago. "In Paris, where I did my higher (studies in) creative design, I went to YSL to show my portfolio, and this lady there said, 'Your designs are very good, but I don't see anything of your country in them'. God bless her, because that one sentence changed my life! It was so revealing to me. Also, what she was not saying was, 'We do this western style very well, so why don't you bring your Indian-ness into it?'. I somehow never put my Indian-ness in, and I felt insulted, ashamed, that I couldn't put my home state, Goa, and my country into my creations." An almost dramatic epiphany followed - "I remember it was August 15, 1988, and I came back to India, deciding that I want to discover my country again." There'd been other detours, successful ones at that. Wendell had started out his professional life with hotel management; here's the recap: "When I passed out from SSC, there was this very elegant lady (and things always have to do with elegance, in my case somehow), Mrs Panthaki, who came from the Institute of Hotel Management in Dadar, and she came to explain the concept of five-star hotels opening up, and showed us slides of the rooms and all; this is 1971 I'm talking about, mind you!. I'd never been inside a Taj hotel room and she talked about this as a booming industry. So, just for the heck of it, I decided to do this, while all my other compatriots joined the regular science streams. My parents were quite horrified - how was I going to become a good Goan professional, a cook? I did the course; I worked for two years in India, four years in the Middle East. And one day, this lady saw my sketches at the club I was working in, in Oman, and she looked at them and suggested I study professionally. It was not the first time this was thrown at me, and I just decided to do it. I was 26, doing extremely well in the hotel industry, a grand salary of 40,000, which was very high at the time, but I threw it up and went to Los Angeles, and did my degree in fashion. I liked America, but it wasn't creative enough, so I went to Paris then." Of course, Wendell could've just asked his cousins, those he'd designed for, or friends who'd always ask him about what colour they should paint their walls. He paints a few Goan childhood snapshots, "My mother, like most mothers of that time, had this tailor who would come home during festival time, you know, Christmas, Easter, weddings... and he would bring these huge takas of cloth, bels of cloth, and I would just be amazed and fascinated by them. That he could convert this flat fabric into a work of beauty, for me, was magic... to see fabric become something that was worn by a living person. I was interested in the movement, how the fabric moves on a body, the fluidity that comes when someone wears it. I also recall very distinctly, it might sound bizarre, but I remember watching The Sound of Music, and there's this scene when Julie Andrews cuts up the curtains and makes them into picnic clothes for the children. I was fascinated by that. I started doing things for my cousins, designing things for them, only those who were close to me. When I was growing up, there was no concept of a designer, there was no NIFT. One had heard of international designers, but there were no designers in India. Rohit Khosla, James Ferreira, they were not heard of as designers. They were associated with mills, mills that produced clothes. And mills did fashion shows. Bombay Dyeing, Calico et cetera." When he got back from Paris, Wendell took up a job teaching at SNDT College in Bombay. "I taught up till 1993, which is when I moved to Goa, to settle there." Prior to the move, he worked with Hemant Trivedi, and at Garden Vareli as chief designer, "Shilpa Shah, my mentor there, told me you're working with polyester, but your heart is in natural fabrics. She helped me psychologically and, quite literally, financially, to start my own label in 1991. She could see that I appreciated weave and fabric. Back then, it was all about big broad shoulders, Joan Collins in Dynasty, bright colours." Amidst a mouthful of the 8 am breakfast buffet ("I get all my ideas in the morning. I'm up by 5.30 am max. By 10 am, I'm creatively dead..."), between omelettes and green tea in Delhi, where we intially meet, Wendell tells me he can do the top I'm wearing with "just iron filings and vinegar". And also, importantly, the "bootis won't fade" he smiles. At the flagship store in Panjim, where we insist on a guided tour, it's easy to sense that Wendell's heart is fixated on what they call The Eco-Room. Haldi and onion and anaar juice, guava leaves and the local Goan cashew fruit, all comprise the making-of process here, part of the being of the spiffily casual men's kurtas that surround us and distract me so (that, and the turmeric yellow yoga mats, which look and feel as if they're infused with that rush of energy that a surya namaskar morning stretch brings on). Wendell's pride reflects in his voice, "We're working with tribals here, working on trees we can use as dyes. It's been a great seven-year experience, because the forests have come back, the animals have come back, and the tribals are very happy, because it's all natural stuff - unlike those chemical dyes, which, as soon as they're out of the vats, are poison. This is like pulp, manure, fertiliser, they take it for their fields. I put this obvious concern for the environment into my clothes, besides the relaxed resort flavour. I don't even know when I became a designer-activist in Goa, but it happened." At the store, as he's flitting about, sprained and swollen ankle notwithstanding, the assistants and store managers are almost overawed, watching him, as Wendell indulgently, passionately, lovingly, discusses all the little details. He's pointing at the floor, currently, "The flooring is from the 1930's, when the land was reclaimed. I put the colours on the walls from the floors... I designed the whole space here. This is a heritage part of Panjim, and no one can touch or break anything. And I wanted it all very simple, in keeping with that spirit." In what they call The White Room ("because I'm associated with the colour"), Wendell stands in front of outfits displayed on clotheslines ("to tell you they don't shrink"), almost reminiscing about not having second thoughts, "I don't think too much about my clothes, but I know the psychology I make them with, for sure. It's been long, almost 20 years now, and it's been a great challenge and discipline to stick with my philosophy. So many times, people have popped up and said, 'You know, Wendell, if you take this kurta, it's white linen, and if you put a little bit of embroidery, it'll fly on the shelf', and I've said, 'No. I want to keep it like this'. When a lady's wearing the garment, first of all, she should feel comfortable. Secondly, someone who's touching her garment shouldn't feel like they're touching a cactus. I'm not saying sequins or embroidery are bad. They're very much a part of our culture. But, in my mind, I'm sort of democratic about my clothes. I'm not interested in making a party dress (though I do it quite well), I'm interested in daily clothes, so it becomes a part of people's lives." Fashion democracy has, in the past, translated into "women of a certain size coming into my store and crying", because they've found what they were looking for. "This is very important to me - that a woman has a problem in her head that she's too busty or hippy. At times, I feel like I'm a feelgood doctor. And all women feel like they have fat hips or whatever. Even the models feel that! If they get a small pimple, it's like 'Oh my god! I'm fat!'. I think it's a great thing to study bodies and give people confidence through clothes, something that Malaika has taught me, because I've seen her transition from a 17 or 18-year-old girl to a sexy woman to a wife and mother. I've been watching her body and learning. And when we measure people, believe me, between a Malaika hip, which is 36, and an average Indian hip size, which is 40, that's four inches! On a garment, it's like one inch front and back on one side, and another on the other side. Just that! And we make such an issue of that. I always tell them, Indian women are meant to have hips. It's like Indian men have skinny legs. You know?" At the store, garments are arranged according to size ("so that a lady is not frustrated going through things that are not her size"), where the M (Medium) and the L (Large)are greatest in volume, "and our S (Small) rack is only over after a fashion show," adds Wendell, cheekily. He's sure about his consumer, and what he offers to her. "I have the Indian woman in mind. All ages, shapes and sizes. And I don't want to do garments that she'll wear only once. I want them to become a part of her life, personality, extend your mind. I can do a nice lehenga, it's so easy, but I'd rather not do it, because that's a once-in-your-lifetime moment. I'd rather do clothes where we become part of your everyday life, your style..." Which fits like a glove with Wendell's celebrated minimalism. As he sips the coconut water extracted from his orchard in Colvale (where there are a dozen coconut trees), we do breakfast that's amidst nature, with sweet, sleepy Napoleon by my side for company. Wendell doesn't mince words about setting trailblazing trends. "When I started out, you never saw a cotton garment hanging in a high-fashion boutique, it just wasn't done. Fashion was meant to be silk and emboidery, always. I think, if we have clothes based in cotton today, I started it. A lot of young designers saw that they could make clothing out of cotton and they're continuing the legacy, which is great." It's like with the classic men's short kurta we're only too familiar with today, something that Wendell's wearing in black ("I have a wardrobe that's 60 per cent white, and 40 per cent black"). "They called me India's guru of minimalism in 1993, I'll tell you why! When I made this short kurti for men, I remember I wanted to make it because I loved the Indian kurta, but it was too long and it would get stuck in the door. So I wanted to make it shorter, a kurta with the practicality of a western shirt. I ripped out the kurta completely, and said 'I don't want the buttons', 'I don't want the cuff', 'I don't want the starchy collars'. I took it apart like Coco Chanel, who said take it apart until you see it there, just the real design lurking. It just showed up - the fabric, the colour - beautifully." He wears the black one while travelling and during the monsoons "so it doesn't get dirty" and the white one otherwise, teaming it up with jeans/pants when he steps outside, and a lungi at home. He adds, "I wish I'd patented it, because I see it everywhere now. Be it Christian Dior, or Stella McCartney, or the Janpath streets, or Ibiza, you'll see that kurta there!" Green tea figures in Goa too, albeit here, it's drunk from a special urn, and Wendell's parameters for the good life are discussed. "I remember I dropped 1,000 euros on a pair of shoes in Paris and my mother was horrified, 'How can you spend Rs. 60,000 on shoes?'. And I told her, 'It's because you're looking at them like shoes, I think they're a serious work of art'." He smiles and elaborates, "I have a fetish list - books, music, art, shoes, in that order - to spend on. I don't like fiction much. I might read it once in two years. I also read six books at a time. I'm a Gemini, I'm multi-faceted. I love all music - I can listen to African beating drums, people chanting in temples... I think if we didn't talk too much and listened to music, it would be a better form of communication. I tend to go for art that's abstract and lets me search, art which has defined brushstrokes or detailing. I like to get lost in it. I have the largest collection of Goan contemporary art. I don't buy art for value, as an 'investment'- that's for bankers and lawyers. I buy art to live with, to surround myself with, to live with everyday." Jewellery was one of Wendell's things too, up until a few years ago, before he decided to replace them with tattoos, that is. (Zig zag lightning strikes on the ring finger and the neck.) Wendell views the three schools of Indian fashion thus, counting them off on his fingers, "There's royal India, all about the maharajahs, which Raghuvendra Rathore and Tarun Tahiliani and Rohit Bal do, very rich and very nice. Then there's hippy kitsch gone Bollywood, which is what Manish and Malini do. And then there's me - based on those very abstract Indian concepts, about yoga and calmness and Ayurveda. I think my garments are a reflection of that, because they've been created in that spirit," - a space he comfortably inhabits, his Goan soul perfectly centred. "Indian garments, from Vedic times, never had a stitch, you know. They were all drapes, lungis and saris, which were later held together by knots or small nadas when the Mughals came. I like to do that, I hardly put zippers on my clothes, I like to drape, and things are generally held together with knots or nadas." Wear-ability and practicality loom large on his fashion horizon, "I am more Gandhian in that sense. I don't want the clothes I make to wear you. You wear the clothes. I would hate it if a lady walked into the room and someone said, 'What a beautiful dress', instead of 'What a beautiful lady'. You know? I'd rather her style, mind and body take centrestage, and I don't mind the garment being subtle, so that she comes out, her personality, rather than the dress. And if she likes what she's wearing, if she's comfortable, she's going to shine." Wendell admits to feeling "a complete emotion" at the start of the creative process, and he shares with us the story of Visionaire, a special project, infinitely close to his heart. "I remember it as my best collection to date, made for the visually challenged. Professor Acharya, who used to teach in a school for the blind in Worli approached me, and he asked me to do some clothes. He told me how it's such a disaster for the visually challenged getting dressed in the morning, saying, 'What you all do in 10 minutes and gain so much confidence out of, we do in 45 minutes'. And I thought that's a terrible thing. Now I'd heard about colour therapy and all - how red energises you, blue calms you down - we tried it all, and there was no response. Finally, we put down the text in Braille, found out through research and several try-outs how they can only recognise the text that fits in the ball of their fingers. So, we wrote sentences in Braille in that size, using French knots or beads, and finally they could read in six months. That this was a 'white shirt, size M, by Wendell Rodricks'. It was a path-breaking innovation in the world and it worked out only because I looked at it seriously as a project, and with emotion." The assistants at his store are particularly taken by one of Wendell's peculiar (not to mention handy) talents - reading sizes in one glance. Says Wendell, "I learnt very early, in LA, under the person who would cut Marilyn Monroe's clothes, how to read peoples' sizes. He would just say, 'Read that woman's measurements. Learn to train your eye'. And believe me, my eye is so tuned today, I can tell your measurements just by looking at you. In the store, I write them down for reference when people walk in. And many times, my assistant is absolutely shocked, because I've written down the exact measurements already." Down to the half-inch, if you must. Wendell also listens hard to requests, making new trends as he hears about them, "Like when we started out, no one wanted necklines beyond seven inches, and now the clients are always like 'Make it lower', because cleavage is suddenly in again." Another trick of the trade is a photographic memory, "I'll meet you 20 years from now, and I could tell you what you were wearing, what earrings, how many bootis there were on your top. Like, you know how you had to draw that arterial system of the frog and all in school? It was in my memory and I just had to draw from there, it was always perfect, I would always get full marks. I would sometimes draw extra ones for my friends and they would attach the supplements to their answer sheets. The other day, I was talking to my Aunt Veronica, and she was so amazed, because I was telling her how I remember her wedding dress so clearly, down to the last detail of the flower bouquet." His trained eyes are forever performing impromptu makeovers, Wendell confesses, post Delhi breakfast, a few hours before his flight back home, "I think Anne Hollander wrote a book, Seeing through Clothes, about how you can read a person by the clothes and it's true. I like to people-watch in airports and all, but I'm not critical. I have my definite views, like 'Oh my God! I would never wear that'. But I'm also looking at the clothes with that sense of praticality behind it. I'm always thinking 'Oh, if that shirt was slightly longer/shorter, he'd be more comfortable', or how that button could shift there, et cetera, et cetera. I'm always redesigning. I go to church in Goa and I can't concentrate, because I'm always redesigining in my head. I've redesigned everyone's clothes, like someone's wearing a polyster frock with a bow on the bum!"I sense an involuntary shudder down his spine, "I've redesigned the priest's garments also. My mind is constantly thinking about this, because my eyes are constantly watching..." Wendell cuts his clothes himself even today, definitely the complicated ones. "I think most designers are very good with their pens and sketches. But give them scissors and I'm quite sure they'll be at sea. I'm sure I can beat any designer in this country in this competition. I mean, I'll win it. I like to cut because I think it's also about spinning the garment mathematically in my head. And I like throwing myself challenges like, 'Can I make a gown out of one-and-a-half metres of fabric?'. And we did, we made a nice low back, tie-knot evening gown." He tells us about his unique style of cutting that uses Indian geometry, "I do it the way Indian tailors think. For many years, I'd been trained in that western way of cutting and making clothes, and I would look at Indian tailors and wonder what the hell they were doing. Because they weren't doing those patterns and all like we'd been taught in LA or Paris, where we would calculate, one-fourth shoulder, then divide it by two, some mathematical jargon, which was just, I mean, I was always bad at math! Then I cracked the code by observing the darzis here. They divide the whole body into grids." He picks up a napkin and demonstrates, "For a simple kurta, I need an edge for the shoulder and I know it's 15-and-a-half. Then I know the neck is about three-and-a-half inches, so I get the neck-point, which is the most important one, and then there's a slope to the shoulder. So how much is that and how do I get the chest point? I know the shoulder to the apex is 10 inches, and an average person has a 36 or 38 inch bust... and I'm cutting in squares. I could give you a class right now and you could cut your own kurta in half-an-hour, I'm not kidding. Observing Indian tailors and realising what they were marking was a moment for me. I would just stand there, staring, knowing I had to crack this. This was after I'd come back, technically as a trained designer from the west. This observation went on from 1988 to almost the time when I went to Goa. Because I realised I didn't have a masterji and I had to cut the clothes myself. So till about 1994, I was perfecting this. How long is that? You do the math, I'm bad!" he laughs. Ask him if designers are judged on pret and an international market, and Wendell takes the mickey out of that question. "In India? You're judged by which Bollywood filmstar is wearing your clothes. That's it. (laughs). It's a nation that's obsessed with film, glamour and fashion. It is honestly that. Until Rekha bought my clothes or Malaika started wearing them or Bipasha wore them, until I got that endorsement from Bollywood, I was not important. At least, for the general public. Just yesterday, I was talking to Rocky S and Vikram Phadnis on the flight, and they were telling me about how, and we can't take names here, but how Shilpa Shetty has these racks of clothes coming from designers, big names. Which I don't think is a bad thing, though. I mean, I'm sure they get bags from Louis Vuitton to flaunt, right? So, it's a marketing thing." Bombay, for Wendell, is fun from a distance, or as he puts it, words pushed between a laughing fit, "When I need an adrenaline high, I don't need to bungee jump, I go to Bombay." He talks about his Goan life some more, "I have lots of friends - Amitav Ghosh, Theodore Misquita, IAS officers - who're completely away from the fashion world, and amused by it all. Actually, I have these parties sometimes, which are so entertaining, because they're the only places in the world where big time industrialists, who're naturally so bored, meet these young hot models." And a fashionista's digression, "I don't know what they're doing in those offices, these industrialist types, worried about the budget and whatnot and dressed like penguins. Why are they in these Ralph Lauren ties? They should be in Indian kurtas and feel more comfortable and look more stylish, you know." The "isolation and distance" is something he relishes; watching the raindrops plonk into the swimming pool, feeding Tiger a slice of cheese ("My Goa. The real Goa. Which tourists most often miss out on"), you know Wendell's home. "I'm away from the visual bombardment. I don't watch television, I don't read newspapers. There's an asana I do in yoga, where you can stop the sound, and that's what I do. I avoid the Page 3 parties. As a result of which, I can focus on my work and my clothes, which is what I really want to do. I make time to enjoy life, I wake up early, go for walks, I leave the office before sunset so I can appreciate it - I'm not this person who can be stuck in a tubelit office forever. The best things are really free, especially in Goa, where you can just go look at the stars and the skies at night, admire a river. We have a small boat, and we take it out for a spin sometimes. I read books, I enjoy good biographies, and I like to read about fashion. I'm reading Caroline Weber's Queen of Fashion: What Marie Antoinette Wore to the Revolution. It's a dress-by-dress psychological account, how clothes became so much a part of her persona, how she started out as a 13-year-old bride and ended up at the guillotine years later." There's a memento of a memory burnt onto his brain, from when Wendell was four, growing up, overwhlemed by those bels of cloth, "The tailor went out for lunch and I was fiddling with the machine and by mistake, I put my nail under the needle and took a stitch. I instantly knew there was something wrong, because well, firstly, I was in shock and then, there was this pool of blood and I was crying, saying, 'I'm stuck in this machine'. Everyone panicked, but my dad, thankfully, had the presence of mind to reverse the machine, because it was that hand-driven thing, and he managed to gently pull my hand out from underneath it. So, I feel like I've been tied to that machine, really..." -------------- First appeared in First City Magazine, New Delhi, Oct 2008. ========