Re: [Goanet] Will any Goan....re casteism in the Church - confraria is still supreme ??

2006-09-18 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Peter D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mario, I must disagree with you on this one. There is a great deal of information available that seems to support Selma's views. The paper you cite ignores the history of the Roman Catholic church in regards to celibacy (or lack thereof),

Re: [Goanet] Will any Goan....re casteism in the Church

2006-09-18 Thread Peter D'Souza
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Re: [Goanet] Will any Goan....re casteism in the Church - confraria is still supreme ??

2006-09-16 Thread Peter D'Souza
Hi Mario, I must disagree with you on this one. There is a great deal of information available that seems to support Selma's views. The paper you cite ignores the history of the Roman Catholic church in regards to celibacy (or lack thereof), especially when it comes to the papacy. Peter -- Here

Re: [Goanet] Will any Goan....re casteism in the Church

2006-09-15 Thread Frederick \FN\ Noronha
I think Cecil is being unduly soft on the media. If the newspapers feeled the pinch, they would react. While newspapers reflect society, they also shape it. So they have responsibilities. They can be either a tonic or a narcotic for the mental health of a society. And what is the record in Goa? *

Re: [Goanet] Will any Goan....re casteism in the Church - confraria is still supreme ??

2006-09-15 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This incidentally was one of the chief reasons for incorporating celibacy into the Catholic Church law. That often, Church property was passed down from generation to generation when priests could actually marry and the Church was having none of that.

Re: [Goanet] Will any Goan....re casteism in the Church

2006-09-15 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Frederick \FN\ Noronha wrote: I think Cecil is being unduly soft on the media. If the newspapers feeled the pinch, they would react. While newspapers reflect society, they also shape it. So they have responsibilities. and PS: Cecil's argument might just be shifting attention from

Re: [Goanet] Will any Goan....re casteism in the Church

2006-09-14 Thread Carvalho
I just want to add three points to this debate: One, the confraria has been stripped of much of its powers by the ArchBishop. All collection of money that was the unmitigated domain of the Confraria is now diluted between the parish priest (Fabrica) and the Confraria. For those who wish to know

Re: [Goanet] Will any Goan....re casteism in the Church

2006-09-14 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think every Goan should take a stand against caste when they see it in action. Mario observes: I have done this all my life and have the scars to prove it. Selma writes: Let's start with the ads that appear on newspapers. Why not instigate a

Re: [Goanet] Will any Goan....re casteism in the Church - confraria is still supreme ??

2006-09-14 Thread Carvalho
Dear Joe, Actually this is an interesting discussion because it is sort of parallel to separation of church and state. Now, the wily Portuguese probably had a good reason for making the Confraria supreme as opposed to the Parish priest, but like any body with powers vested in them, they tend to

[Goanet] Will any Goan....re casteism in the Church

2006-09-14 Thread Cecil Pinto
Selma writes: Let's start with the ads that appear on newspapers. Why not instigate a campaign to boycott newspapers that run these ads? Mario observes: Wouldn't you be boycotting every Goan newspaper ever published, not to mention impeding free speech? Cecil thinks: It's easy to blame

Re: [Goanet] Will any Goan....re casteism in the Church - confraria is still supreme ??

2006-09-14 Thread Frederick \FN\ Noronha
under the carpet and not even given the attention these deserve. With apologies to Eric Raymond's Given enough eyeballs all (computer) bugs are shallow, let's paraphrase to say Given enough eyeballs, it's easy to understand many an issue in cyberspace! --FN Re: [Goanet] Will any Goanre