Re: [gobolinux-devel] Behavior of general use flags

2008-09-26 Thread Michael Homer
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Jonas Karlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/9/26 Lucas C. Villa Real <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Michael Homer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Lucas C. Villa Real >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [gobolinux-devel] Behavior of general use flags

2008-09-25 Thread Jonas Karlsson
2008/9/26 Michael Homer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Lucas C. Villa Real > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Michael Homer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Lucas C. Villa Real >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [gobolinux-devel] Behavior of general use flags

2008-09-25 Thread Jonas Karlsson
2008/9/26 Lucas C. Villa Real <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Michael Homer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Lucas C. Villa Real >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:46 AM, Jonas Karlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: [gobolinux-devel] Behavior of general use flags

2008-09-25 Thread Michael Homer
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Lucas C. Villa Real <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Michael Homer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Lucas C. Villa Real >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:46 AM, Jonas Karlsson <[EM

Re: [gobolinux-devel] Behavior of general use flags

2008-09-25 Thread Lucas C. Villa Real
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Michael Homer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Lucas C. Villa Real > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:46 AM, Jonas Karlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Clarification: >>> Generic flags are defined in Settings/G

Re: [gobolinux-devel] Behavior of general use flags

2008-09-25 Thread Andy Feldman
On Thursday 25 September 2008 18:09, Michael Homer wrote: > If you don't want to use the generics, turn them off (or just erase > the file, and you can never even turn them on by accident). If you > don't want to use a specific one, turn it off. If you don't ever want > to use a particular potentia

Re: [gobolinux-devel] Behavior of general use flags

2008-09-25 Thread Michael Homer
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Lucas C. Villa Real <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:46 AM, Jonas Karlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Clarification: >> Generic flags are defined in Settings/GenericFlags.conf. >> Setting flags you do in Data/DistUseFlags.conf, Settings/Use

Re: [gobolinux-devel] Behavior of general use flags

2008-09-25 Thread Lucas C. Villa Real
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:46 AM, Jonas Karlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Clarification: > Generic flags are defined in Settings/GenericFlags.conf. > Setting flags you do in Data/DistUseFlags.conf, Settings/UseFlags.conf > and USE environmental variable. > > Flags are parsed and enabled in this

Re: [gobolinux-devel] Behavior of general use flags

2008-09-23 Thread Jonas Karlsson
2008/9/22 Hisham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Michael Homer >>> My distant, high-level perception of the issue: if I don't have >>> "tcltk" listed in my "gui" flags, or if I have "-tcltk" explicitly >>> listed in my flags configuration, then I _really_ don't want to see >

Re: [gobolinux-devel] Behavior of general use flags

2008-09-22 Thread michael
(I am faking the quoting manually because gmail's mobile client doesn't do inline well. Hopefully it's comprehensible.) > Scenario 1: if dist flags sets "gui: qt gtk tcltk" and system flags > sets "+gui" and I run "USE=-tcltk" on a recipe that has an optional > Tcl/Tk GUI, do I get a Tcl/Tk GUI bu

Re: [gobolinux-devel] Behavior of general use flags

2008-09-22 Thread Hisham
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Hisham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My main concern is that the answer for scenario 1 is "no". I may have phrased this badly. What I meant is: I only want to make sure that the answer for scenario 1 is "no" (ie, generic flags set by upper levels shouldn't bring u

Re: [gobolinux-devel] Behavior of general use flags

2008-09-22 Thread Hisham
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Michael Homer >> My distant, high-level perception of the issue: if I don't have >> "tcltk" listed in my "gui" flags, or if I have "-tcltk" explicitly >> listed in my flags configuration, then I _really_ don't want to see >> any optional Tcl/Tk GUIs being built from

Re: [gobolinux-devel] Behavior of general use flags

2008-09-21 Thread Michael Homer
On Monday 22 September 2008 16:50:21 Hisham wrote: > On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Michael Homer > The solution to this > "problem" is that you don't enable generic flags > > > you don't want to use, and you don't list programs you don't want to > > use as part of the generics you *do* want to u

Re: [gobolinux-devel] Behavior of general use flags

2008-09-21 Thread Jonas Karlsson
2008/9/22 Hisham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Michael Homer > The solution to this > "problem" is that you don't enable generic flags >> you don't want to use, and you don't list programs you don't want to >> use as part of the generics you *do* want to use. If you want t

Re: [gobolinux-devel] Behavior of general use flags

2008-09-21 Thread Jonas Karlsson
2008/9/22 Hisham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 6:35 AM, Jonas Karlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> After a long discussion on IRC (mostly between Michael and me) two >> views on how general flags should behave have emerged. Since Michael >> and me is of different opinions we woul

Re: [gobolinux-devel] Behavior of general use flags

2008-09-21 Thread Hisham
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Michael Homer > The solution to this "problem" is that you don't enable generic flags > you don't want to use, and you don't list programs you don't want to > use as part of the generics you *do* want to use. If you want to use a > specific implementation for a part

Re: [gobolinux-devel] Behavior of general use flags

2008-09-21 Thread Hisham
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 6:35 AM, Jonas Karlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After a long discussion on IRC (mostly between Michael and me) two > views on how general flags should behave have emerged. Since Michael > and me is of different opinions we would like some more input on this > topic. > >

Re: [gobolinux-devel] Behavior of general use flags

2008-09-21 Thread Michael Homer
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Carlo Calica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 2:35 AM, Jonas Karlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hope to get some input on this and in the end come to a consensus. > It seems the two states of set and unset aren't enough. How does > adding a

Re: [gobolinux-devel] Behavior of general use flags

2008-09-21 Thread Carlo Calica
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 2:35 AM, Jonas Karlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A problem with this approach is that there's no way to reset a generic > flag to the default behaviour. If +bbb is set there is no way to reset > "aaa" to selecting from the full "bbb ccc ddd" group. Currently just > spe

Re: [gobolinux-devel] Behavior of general use flags

2008-09-21 Thread Michael Homer
On Sunday 21 September 2008 21:35:19 Jonas Karlsson wrote: > After a long discussion on IRC (mostly between Michael and me) two > views on how general flags should behave have emerged. Since Michael > and me is of different opinions we would like some more input on this > topic. Further explanation