Re: [google-appengine] Re: high replication datastore limited to 1 write per second?!

2011-10-24 Thread Nick Johnson
Hi Scott, It's impossible to say without more details - what are you trying to achieve, what is your model design, and why do you think this will be a problem? It'd probably be better if you started a new thread - here or on Stack Overflow - with more details. -Nick Johnson On Mon, Oct 24, 2011

Re: [google-appengine] Useful to abandon any hierarchical Entity Groups?

2011-10-24 Thread Nick Johnson
Hi Mos, The short answer is that you should use entity groups if and only if you need transactionality for the entities in that group. If you don't, put them in separate entity groups. If you have a firm requirement for transactionality but you can't put the relevant entities in the same group (fo

[google-appengine] Re: I should not Pay Tax in Google app Engine

2011-10-24 Thread Philip
Whats the name of that form Brandon? On Oct 25, 6:04 am, "Brandon Wirtz" wrote: > There is a form you can fill out with the US Government to get your tax > back. > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com > > [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On

[google-appengine] Re: Mail API stops sending email from one admin address, still sends from others

2011-10-24 Thread pdknsk
I'm quite sure this is automated based on heuristics and statistics. Or maybe someone send an email to abuse or postmaster. http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=33389&topic=15892 I'll file a bug report on this problem (silently not delivering emails) when my account is react

[google-appengine] Re: Mail API stops sending email from one admin address, still sends from others

2011-10-24 Thread Nevin Freeman
Good catch! Thanks for helping me figure this out! Now to figure out which part of the TOS I am in violation of, if any. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com.

RE: [google-appengine] Re: I should not Pay Tax in Google app Engine

2011-10-24 Thread Brandon Wirtz
There is a form you can fill out with the US Government to get your tax back. -Original Message- From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 8:31 PM To: Google App Engine Subject: [google-appengine] Re:

[google-appengine] Re: Send Email on GAE

2011-10-24 Thread Greg
See the other current thread about email - one person had their email address suspended due to abuse. On Oct 23, 3:16 am, Leandro Rezende wrote: > Both application are on same google account, same admin, same deployed code. > > 2011/10/22 Greg > > > > > > > > > Make sure SMTP_AUTH_USER is actual

[google-appengine] Re: I should not Pay Tax in Google app Engine

2011-10-24 Thread Greg
On Oct 23, 10:38 am, Stéphane Cohen wrote: > However, as I am not a US resident I am not suposed to pay this tax. This is going to become a significant problem when the new billing starts. Google might like to think about being able to set accounts as non-resident and not billing those accounts f

Re: [google-appengine] Re: HRD uses more datastore writes?

2011-10-24 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
Long shot ... any chance your old app is still running? If so, could task queues/cron jobs on the old app might be hitting the new app and causing an increase in writes? Of course ... you would see additional load if this were the case. This would be much easier to solve if we knew which handlers

[google-appengine] Is a list allowed in reply_to field in message?

2011-10-24 Thread thstart
I want to assign a list to reply_to field in message. Like this: reply_tos = ['ema...@gmail.com', 'ema...@gmail.com', 'ema...@gmail.com'] message.reply_to = reply_tos 1) does appengine Email allows this? It is defined in http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc0822.txt 4.4.3. REPLY-TO / RESENT-REPLY-TO This

[google-appengine] Re: SaaS for government on GAE

2011-10-24 Thread hector@ISB
I don't think that there would be policy specific to GAE, or AWS for that matter. What I've seen (NIH) is mostly concerned with standards for securing private data (e.g. passwords, SSL, etc), portability and auditing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[google-appengine] Re: Max Limit of tasks a single task can start?

2011-10-24 Thread vlad
There is a limit of 100 tasks max per single BulkAdd call. I am not aware of any limitations (other than quota) if you spread tasks creations across multiple BulkAdd calls. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this disc

[google-appengine] Re: Mail API stops sending email from one admin address, still sends from others

2011-10-24 Thread pdknsk
Alright, I've contacted Google Apps support. It worries me that harmless mail accounts can be suspended (probably automated though), but moreso that the administator isn't notified about it. If I wasn't subscribed to my own service I might've not noticed for days or weeks. -- You received this me

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Useful to abandon any hierarchical Entity Groups?

2011-10-24 Thread Pascal Voitot Dev
+1 to your approach :) In Siena, I introduced the so-called "aggregation" which is entity group in a more generic way. It gives a very interesting way to design your models and fits lots of situations! Pascal On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:39 PM, Jeff Schnitzer wrote: > I used to advise people to us

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Useful to abandon any hierarchical Entity Groups?

2011-10-24 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
I used to advise people to use shared entity groups as little as possible. That was on M/S. I have found that the HRD changes everything, and now I use hierarchical entity groups quite a lot. >From previous discussions here, HRD eventuality is usually seconds, sometimes minutes, and in catastrop

[google-appengine] Re: Mail API stops sending email from one admin address, still sends from others

2011-10-24 Thread pdknsk
Well, I just logged into Google Apps and noticed that Google suspended the email address for abuse! I've got no idea why, and wasn't notified about this either! Who can I contact about this? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. T

Re: [google-appengine] Re: high replication datastore limited to 1 write per second?!

2011-10-24 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Gerald Tan wrote: > There are two methods I can think of. > 1) Copy on Write Entities - persist a new copy of the entity each time you > want to update it, together with the timestamp it is written. When you want > to retrieve the entity, query for the latest ver

[google-appengine] Re: high replication datastore limited to 1 write per second?!

2011-10-24 Thread Gerald Tan
There are two methods I can think of. 1) Copy on Write Entities - persist a new copy of the entity each time you want to update it, together with the timestamp it is written. When you want to retrieve the entity, query for the latest version. 2) Use a backend instance to store the entities into

[google-appengine] Max Limit of tasks a single task can start?

2011-10-24 Thread Mike Schlanser
Hello, Is there a limit to how many tasks a single task can kick off? We're getting around 25000 tasks and its throwing an error about BulkAdd() error. Is there a "flush" for a queue in java code? Thanks, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Goog

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Mail API stops sending email from one admin address, still sends from others

2011-10-24 Thread Leandro Rezende
I should be sad because of this bug, but I'm happy to know that I am not the only one with the problem 2011/10/24 pdknsk > I'm noticing this as well since today. This is not good! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > To

[google-appengine] Re: Mail API stops sending email from one admin address, still sends from others

2011-10-24 Thread pdknsk
I'm noticing this as well since today. This is not good! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine

[google-appengine] Re: high replication datastore limited to 1 write per second?!

2011-10-24 Thread Scott Lewis
Also, is there any way to know that I'm updating an entity group sooner than once a second? Thanks! On Oct 24, 7:26 am, Scott Lewis wrote: > I'm writing a multiplayer game using App Engine. What are ways I can > work around the 1 write per second within an entity group? I don't > know when a mes

[google-appengine] Re: can possible to transfer data in mysql on localhost??

2011-10-24 Thread Ian Marshall
I believe that GAE/J may now feature data exchange with a Google SQL- friendly database. Check out the GAE community/documentation for details. I don't know how MySQL-friendly this SQL functionality is. There may be an API you can look at to find out... On Oct 24, 12:40 pm, nikesh pathak wrote:

[google-appengine] SaaS for government on GAE

2011-10-24 Thread Jacob G
What is the US government policy (at federal, state, county levels, etc.) for using software services running on GAE? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.

Re: [google-appengine] Re: can possible to transfer data in mysql on localhost??

2011-10-24 Thread nikesh pathak
thank you sir... On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 3:51 AM, Ian Marshall wrote: > App Engine itself persists data in the Google datastore only (ignoring > the temporary memcache and things like enqueued tasks and sending data > outside of App Engine for storage). > > The same will apply to an App Engine we

[google-appengine] Re: high replication datastore limited to 1 write per second?!

2011-10-24 Thread Scott Lewis
I'm writing a multiplayer game using App Engine. What are ways I can work around the 1 write per second within an entity group? I don't know when a message acknowledgement will return from a client, and with the unreliable nature of the memcache, I'm at a loss at where I can store my data to make s

[google-appengine] Re: can possible to transfer data in mysql on localhost??

2011-10-24 Thread Ian Marshall
App Engine itself persists data in the Google datastore only (ignoring the temporary memcache and things like enqueued tasks and sending data outside of App Engine for storage). The same will apply to an App Engine web application running on a local instance of the development application server,

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Useful to abandon any hierarchical Entity Groups?

2011-10-24 Thread Mos
Thanks for the feedback. Regarding eventually consistency one advice of this talk was: "Accept it." I think for many use-cases in typical web-application this is ok. For showing a use his own post immediately, you can remember the key of the entity and add it manually to the query-list (if not yet