Re: [google-appengine] Deploy drops data

2011-11-04 Thread Barry Hunter
Oh, right sorry. I wasnt thinking about using it as backup. Just a easy way to inspect the Kinds you have in the relevent application. To see if the kinds you think have been "dropped" are actully still there. A easy way to view the Datastore stats. I though you would have to use the same trick to

Re: [google-appengine] Deploy drops data

2011-11-04 Thread Phil McDonnell
My understanding is that only python services can be backed up using the datastore admin. The wording on the "A Note for Java Developers" is only for the "target" application. I'm trying to back up a java app which means my java app is the "source" instead of the "target". On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at

Re: [google-appengine] Deploy drops data

2011-11-01 Thread Barry Hunter
You can http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/adminconsole/datastoreadmin.html See the "A Note for Java Developers" section. On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Phil McDonnell wrote: > Sadly, the source app is java so I can't run the datastore admin.  Enabling > the feature it was a mistake. > > O

Re: [google-appengine] Deploy drops data

2011-11-01 Thread Phil McDonnell
Sadly, the source app is java so I can't run the datastore admin. Enabling the feature it was a mistake. On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Barry Hunter wrote: > Well I was just going to suggest you use the datasotre admin > http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/adminconsole/datastoreadmin.html >

Re: [google-appengine] Deploy drops data

2011-10-31 Thread Barry Hunter
Well I was just going to suggest you use the datasotre admin http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/adminconsole/datastoreadmin.html to view your datastore, to see if the data is still there. On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Phil McDonnell wrote: > Also, minor possibility, but I noticed "Datastor

Re: [google-appengine] Deploy drops data

2011-10-31 Thread Phil McDonnell
Also, minor possibility, but I noticed "Datastore Admin" was enabled in my settings. Perhaps there is a bug associated with that and deploys? Thanks, Phil On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Phil McDonnell wrote: > I investigated the namespace idea and I don't believe that's being used > here at

Re: [google-appengine] Deploy drops data

2011-10-31 Thread Phil McDonnell
I investigated the namespace idea and I don't believe that's being used here at all. The one data class that is still accessible is a remnant from some earlier work and no longer used which may explain why it doesn't become inaccessible/disappear. Any more ideas on how entire datastore classes mig

Re: [google-appengine] Deploy drops data

2011-10-28 Thread Phil McDonnell
Hi guys, Apologies for using unclear terminology on this. I understand the details of how the data is stored on BT. This is not local - this is on the production instance. This idea of something happening that makes the data inaccessible sounds possible. I'm running on version 2 of my app. Coul

Re: [google-appengine] Deploy drops data

2011-10-28 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
Thanks for the explanation Barry. Phil, it sounds like you are talking about the local datastore. Can you clarify? -- Ikai Lan Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine plus.ikailan.com | twitter.com/ikai On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 3:29 AM, Barry Hunter wrote: > That doesn't even make sense

Re: [google-appengine] Deploy drops data

2011-10-28 Thread Barry Hunter
That doesn't even make sense The Datastore has no concept of 'table'. All Entities - regardless of their kind- are stored in one 'bigtable' - they are all intermingled. In fact all Entities from everyone's apps are stored in the same bigtable. So to delete a 'table' - which is really just all en

[google-appengine] Deploy drops data

2011-10-27 Thread Phil McDonnell
Twice now a deploy has cleared several of the data tables in my deployed datastore. Does anyone know what causes this? The symptoms both times are consistent. I do a deploy and the datastore drops several of the tables. Strangely, one very old (and generally unused) table is not dropped and my